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What else do you propose when after 9 months apparently UAX pilots are still getting bumped from their own flights to UAL pilots? I thought the letter was very professional and it has a simple and very clear solution to the problem...

By the way, I’m not UAL nor UAX…

Airhoss

Welcome to the kind of cr@p we have to deal with at UAL. I mean even the simplest little things are denied by this management.

This should take one phone call to fix instead it has to turn into a major ordeal. This is Glens style he loves it!

SharkyBN584

Just a heads up...no one is going to get denied...but I know most captains will make sure the appropriate priority is followed. A computer doesn't determine who rides in the cockpit...the captain does. The only thing that computer is used for is to ensure you're eligible to sit up there...it's not a promise that you'll make it.

I'm pretty sure UAL pilots would raise all holy hell if UAX pilots where bumping them off of their aircraft. So when the regional's raise a stink, it's "childish". When mainline does it, it's "solidarity". Mainline guys haven't gotten anything right since the 90's and this one is no different. Enjoy it guys.

cozdabuch

I'm with Piedmont and I as well as all the rest of our guys would be seriously ticked if a mainline guy or PSA guy took a PDT jumpseat if we were waiting for it. Same as I expect when I'm on one of them that their guys ride before me. That said, I'd be ticked if a non PDT, PSA, or Mainline pilot got the jumpseat on any of our flights because 2nd priority is with the wholly owned-s. Bottom line is that while the computer does not determine who rides, but there are some gate agents who even if you bring it up would refuse to let you down to see the CA... Then maybe you might be lucky enough to wave through the window if there is one or if the CA actually does see you...
Bottom line, they need to fix that problem b/c obviously it is an issue.
Most CAs prob. let someone ride b/c he is the guy who asked w/out knowing their own guy is waiting inside getting the shaft.

par8head

on payrates: they currently all suck...i barely cleared 20K last year (pre-tax)...good thing I payed all that money and 5 years of my life for that wage! Its a blast trying to pay for food, housing, crashpad, car, GAS, and loans while taking home $1,000 /mo...

DYNASTY HVY

Are you saying that you did not get that clean minty taste? sorry just had to.

Blueskies21

I'm not UAL or UAX and I never agree with jumpseat wars because nobody wins but we all know gate agents are idiots and will follow the code in the computer... So why can't you just fix the computer. Bottom line there are going to be mainline guys who are standup guys and give up the jump when a UAX guy is supposed to get it and there are those a-holes who are like "I'm mainline gee that's an unfortunate glich SEEYA" If the express carriers actually get their point across to the point where UALPA puts pressure to fix it or even just raise awareness to the point the mainline guy would be ashamed to screw the express guy out of his jump then they accomplished their mission. Obviously this hurts everybody but I just don't get the Mainline against Regional. Everybodys pay sucks. Where did mainline guys get their start? Regionals (used to be called commuters) and at that time they were all getting "stage pay" now most of them have block or better or a rig of some sort. Everybody has to start somewhere, look back twenty years and give yourself a break.

Thinking man

The MEC at UAL are the ones that made the change. And, they are refusing to change it back!!! There is no computer clique. It will only be change back with UALPA approval...

tsquare

This post, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with our industry.

This probably doesn't mean much coming from me, but I feel for you my brother.. keep your chin up and hopefully this nightmare will be behind us soon and pilots will paid what we truly deserve.

gufusu

Is that a Tonk in your avatar?