If Russian invasion leads to war how will this affect airlines
#22
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You're joking, right? We should bend to the Russians, because they have veto power at the UN .
Well then perhaps we should get out of the UN. Russian UN veto power issue solved.
As far as the real issue, that of Russia invading another country, how is this any different than Saddam Hussein doing the same with Kuwait? If I recall, most of the rest of the world pretty much banded together, ran down every diplomatic road available to no avail, then kicked his ass. Unfortunately I do not see the same outcome here. This is scary stuff, and yes, it was initial conflict between two small countries that started two world wars. So perhaps that should be considered as Russia bombs the civilian airport in Georgia's Capital.
Well then perhaps we should get out of the UN. Russian UN veto power issue solved.
As far as the real issue, that of Russia invading another country, how is this any different than Saddam Hussein doing the same with Kuwait? If I recall, most of the rest of the world pretty much banded together, ran down every diplomatic road available to no avail, then kicked his ass. Unfortunately I do not see the same outcome here. This is scary stuff, and yes, it was initial conflict between two small countries that started two world wars. So perhaps that should be considered as Russia bombs the civilian airport in Georgia's Capital.
#23
There are plenty of political parallels between Saddam invading Kuwait and Russia attacking Georgia; control of natural resources for example. Or the leaders of the attacking forces expecting the rest of the world to be passive (Saddam guessed wrong). Perhaps you missed the part of my quote where I stated the outcome of this conflict as far as other countries involvement will be different, for the reasons Rickair7777 better explained.
You can have the USA Today or NY Times; I'm up on current events just fine, thanks.
Last edited by J Dawg; 08-10-2008 at 08:56 PM.
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It was actually Germans dressed in Polish uniforms who attacked a German radio station in Gleiwitz just inside the German border with Poland while the radio the German listeners heard gunshots then the Polish language saying it is time to invade Germany. It was August 31st 1939. This was the excuse Germany used to invade Poland.
Same can be said about Russia - they moved several armored tank divisions to the proximity of the Georgian border some 6 months ago and despite the Georgian government protesting and begging the West for help we didn't do much (not sure if there's much that we could've done).
Russia is crossing the line with this. Sending tanks and troops into Georgian cities as well as bombing Georgian airfields is going outside of their BS pretext of "protecting Russian citizens". The farther a country is from Russia the better off they are. Russians can care less about South Ossetia and Abkhazia, they are in it for their own personal interests like the pipeline running through Abkhazia, and the virtual territory gains they would get with these 2 provinces becomming independant, they would become Russian puppets. Sick and tired of Russias imperialistic and barbaric campaign that they have been leading for a hundred years now. 2,000 civilians reportedly already dead.
I just heard that Ukraine (which is leasing the seaport of Sevastopol to the Russian Black Sea Fleet) is threatening Russia that naval ships that are participating in the blockade of Georgian ports might be prevented from reentering Ukraine. Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko is the gentleman who was poisoned with dioxin during the election campaign; he is strongly pro-Western.
I give it months before some ‘Russian citizens’ in Sevastopol and other Ukrainian cities of the Crimean peninsula will ask for protection from Russia and subsequently to be absorbed into Russia.
The high oil prices have created a major burden on our economy but most of all they have created a huge problem for all neighbors of Russia – the extra revenue has filled the Russian governments’ pockets to the limits and now they’re trying to expand their ‘Mother Russia’ empire.
All current and future conflicts will have the same theme – “we are just helping the Russian citizens no matter where they live” - I’m afraid Georgia is just the beginning.
Also, the Russians will use Kosovo as their excuse for carving out a big chunk of Georgia and making it Russian instead (they might let those territories become "independent" for a few years after which they'll 'ask' to become part of Russia.)
That’s why I personally opposed Kosovo becoming independent of Serbia – I knew that more would follow. After all, Kosovo has been a part of Serbia for thousands of years and now with our help they've separated. I am NOT defending Serb atrocities at all, just stating that we’ve created a huge problem for the future generations. Probably within the next 10-20 years Kosovo will merge with Albania. I see a repeat of that in all countries bordering Russia that have large Russian populations - they'll try to grow Russia by "defending Russian citizens" in those countries.
Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 08-10-2008 at 09:00 PM.
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I don't think he's in hiding; unfortunately he's in the final stages of fighting for his life due to the pancreatic cancer.
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Jet320's 2 posts make no sense to me due to poor grammar (no offense jet320).
There are plenty of political parallels between Saddam invading Kuwait and Russia attacking Georgia; control of natural resources for example. Or the leaders of the attacking forces expecting the rest of the world to be passive (Saddam guessed wrong). Perhaps you missed the part of my quote where I stated the outcome of this conflict as far as other countries involvement will be different, for the reasons Rickair7777 better explained.
You can have the USA Today or NY Times; I'm up on current events just fine, thanks.
There are plenty of political parallels between Saddam invading Kuwait and Russia attacking Georgia; control of natural resources for example. Or the leaders of the attacking forces expecting the rest of the world to be passive (Saddam guessed wrong). Perhaps you missed the part of my quote where I stated the outcome of this conflict as far as other countries involvement will be different, for the reasons Rickair7777 better explained.
You can have the USA Today or NY Times; I'm up on current events just fine, thanks.
BTW; USA Today/McPaper is nothing like the NY Times. What? Do you just like to draw parallels that don't exist? Yeah, keeping up with that Drudge Report and letting the like do your thinking for you really keeps you up on current events huh?
Last edited by Zapata; 08-10-2008 at 09:48 PM.
#29
That's right, the two major papers are a beacon of truth and are unbiased. Once again, get a clue.
#30
BTW, where on earth did I make this suggestion? Do you even know what you are quoting and replying to? Talk about drawing paralles that don't exist. Nor did I state the 2 newspapers in question are the same.
Last edited by J Dawg; 08-10-2008 at 10:25 PM.
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