2dotslow

Whoa, CO+a bunch of numbers. Unless you are literally comparing criticism of hardcore union views with mocking God, your choice of New Testament scripture, while perhaps making you feel better, is flawed. That said, anything "mean spirited" is solely in the mind of the beholder. This is an opinion (and information) forum, and...if my post(s) offend your sensabilities...that's the way the ball bounces. Please link me to my salt rubbing instances, and I'll respond or retract as necessary. Again, I think some of us take ourselves too seriously.

757Driver

Perhaps we will, Meow Meow Duffrick

crewdawg52

IF its such a good pay scale, why does'nt management take that compensation too?

crewdawg52

Payrates stay in place until '11

CO737,3,5,7,8,9

I can not imagine why anyone who is or was a person who earned their living flying would hold this opinion. If you believe your statement to be true, it must bother you tremendously that for the last 35 years senior airline pilots have made very lucrative salaries and received million dollar lump sum retirement payouts. Since you also imply that you have experience in the military, does it bother you that most senior ranking officers in the Air Force and Navy have an aviation background? I'm just trying to figure out how or why you came to your hold the opinions you have posted. Would you mind telling me what you think is fair compensation for a major airline pilot? Do you also think that the military should lower the education requirements and testing scores to allow individuals who score the lowest to be recruited as pilots? It seems to me that in your ideal world pilots would be held in comtempt as lazy unskilled workers and paid minimum wage. Come on "2 dots low and way too slow" what office do you work in and how much paper do you push?

2dotslow

I do believe that my statement is true, but it isn't necessarily a knock on anybody. We pilots are well-compensated for a relatively easy job (even moreso today) that basically requires a measure of manual dexterity, and an ability to make decisions in real time. Lots of time off, much of the actual mission planning and preparation is done by others (except military ops), and once we get to where we're going we're usually through, done...go home, or to the hotel, or the golf course. You're reading way to much into it if you think there's any implication to unskilled workers, or that lowered standards could/should be the norm. FWIW, I think that lowered standards are, and have always been part of the system in some degree, but that's another story. Maybe it's just me... I've never really felt challenged (combat aside) either mentally or physically in this job, and I've been doing it for a long time. Military flying was the "toughest" and "funnest", corporate the easiest, airlines somewhere in between. BTW, my office is currently in Falcon 2000s or 900Exs...virtually paperless cockpits...so, much like your hopped-up 737s, the most pushing I do is with buttons on the FMS or the eyebrow panel

dckozak

You've seen 2dotslow last professional flight as an aviator (every time he posts!).
He's just a management puke. (got to be better at ass kissing than landings jets)

2dotslow

Full throttle with your internet anonymity...

Eric Stratton

I don't think you answered the question about how much pilots should make?

If you think they are overpaid you should go and work at a regional while having a home and family.

2dotslow

I really don't know the answer to that one, Eric. The economic realities of the airline industry, especially now, play into this equation. Finding a happy medium is way above my pay grade, and as a 9/11 forced-retirement airline pilot, I understand the concerns of those affected. But, there is no quick fix. Additionally, I do think that Regional pilots are underpaid (by comparison with the "majors") in relation to their responsibilities, and exposure to day-to-day operations. Again, as long as disparate groups worry about who flys what size plane, an easy fix isn't in the cards.