Of course no single pay rate has gone up more since I was hired then the new hire pay rates and first 5 year rates. First year pay when I was hired was 1500 a month. It went to 1800 a month for a long time after. Senior Captains then made about 180,000 a year.
On 1 Jan 2013 first year pay is 66 an hour and second year 91 on the lowest paying equipment we operate. Second year pay in 86 was 36.00 an hour. Lets see, then 36 for year 2 and this contract 91. We really yanked the ladder up on the junior guys!!!
The senior pilots pay has soared compared to the bottom!!! NOT!!!

Once again, you like to change the subject. I was speaking of new hire hotel rooms, not pay rates.

07-05-2012 | 04:38 PM

#104882

dalad

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From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Not sure it was blindly.

The argument was made that those jets "greatly help" DAL reign in corporate accounts which of course is good for the DAL pilot............

You do mean rein in, right? A king reigns.

07-05-2012 | 04:41 PM

#104883

dalad

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From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+

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Originally Posted by Columbia

Once again, you like to change the subject. I was speaking of new hire hotel rooms, not pay rates.

You want to spend negotiating capital on where new hires get to live while in training? I made 1500 a month for the first six months before going to 25 bucks an hour. Then we got to graduate to the b scale. Sorry, no for me. My first year I ate through savings to support my family, now new hires are getting over 60 an hour.

07-05-2012 | 04:44 PM

#104884

SailorJerry

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From: A big one that looks like a little one

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Originally Posted by johnso29

To be technical, you're now considered full when you hit your projected credit, not the ALV.

Oh that's right it's your "guarantee".

07-05-2012 | 04:48 PM

#104885

80ktsClamp

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From: Poodle Whisperer

Rumor Mill:

New AE in August for retirement program, 737-900 staffing, and 777 "realignment."

Discuss. Sounds an awful lot like there's still some extra fluff that they want to trim off the 777....

07-05-2012 | 05:08 PM

#104886

Raging white

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From: 5-9 block, kill removing

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Originally Posted by dalad

Dude, this is the most blatant example of pulling up the ladder behind you I've ever seen. Holy crap

07-05-2012 | 05:10 PM

#104887

Reservebum

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From: DC9

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Originally Posted by Superpilot92

the last group of hires had single occupancy room through training and paid from day one.

I was in that class (Oct 2010 hire) and I paid for my hotel the month I was in training at MSP. I didn't like it, but that's the cost of doing business. Delta did cover my hotel during indoc, however, and my take-home pay was $2300/month until I finished training and started IOE.

At the time, my wife and I thought it came across as a little 'cheap' for such a large, respected company to skimp on the hotel and per diem during training (and yes, I'm new to the airline industry).

07-05-2012 | 05:15 PM

#104888

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalad

You do mean rein in, right? A king reigns.

Take it how you wish

07-05-2012 | 05:16 PM

#104889

More Bacon

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From: DAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Rumor Mill:

New AE in August for retirement program, 737-900 staffing, and 777 "realignment."

Discuss. Sounds an awful lot like there's still some extra fluff that they want to trim off the 777....

wait, you mean the first AE after our marvelous shiny new TA will be a negative one? How can that be?

Let's see how DALPA spins this.