Schwartz

4 came. They had already been on furlough for a long time though. A furlough now would be totally different.

Fly4hire

We can't bump now unless they displace, and we couldn't bid the L. seat unless there is a vacancy. Therefore NO seat locks if they come on board. There will only be a vacancy if they bid out to something else. A staple is the only thing I see happening, so they can bid on something else as their seniority allows. Agreed fencing them hurts all of us.

Rotorhead

You have to look beyond the regionals and the draconian pay. The left seat on the Embraer at mainline would pay about $95 an hour for a 6 year or so Captain, that's why a senior FO on the 9 would bid it.

Rotorhead

First of all, Compass IS flying mainlines equipment, make no mistake about it. Compass is operated under a program called NewCo which was created to get higher utilization out of the DC-9s on higher density routes. If those planes, regardless of the pilots, come back to mainline the equipment will go up for bid for all, just like any new equipment and the stapled Compass guys can bid back into their own equipment or to wherever their seniority can hold. What betterment to the profession does bringing new equipment to mainline if said equipment already comes with Captains in the left seat? Maybe I am missing something here, but likely not. When the Compass guys flow to mainline they start off at the absolute bottom, why should it be any different if we bring the equipment over now? Besides, Compass flow-thru pilots had $30 an hour first year pay and 9/year $90 an hour pay on the 757 to look forward to, their expectations are already significantly higher being connected with DAL. Does keeping junior pilots in the left seat of mainline equipment make sense to anyone? DAL is far from the regionals, no 14 month upgrades here dude, get in line like everyone else.

GonzoandCamila

I have been at compass for about 20 months or so. As a fairly senior captain who was hired in the first few classes I can tell you that I was not sold on the flow through from the begining. Almost all of us took the job here because it allowed us to based at home and have instant seniority with a good schedule etc. I know many people came from carriers with mature contracts and were let down. I came from an airline with terrible work rules etc. and I thought it was pretty good. I never thought the flow would happen realistically. This being airline number four for me, I knew not to believe anything the people who interviewed me had to say about flow throughs paths to NWA and other rainbow and butterflies ideas. It has been what I thought it would be; a typical regional that is mostly understaffed and is so cheap it squeaks. We are not even getting JeppView on our proposed EFBs! Anyway, there is nothing better out there right now, and almost everything that happens in our industry is beyond our control so all we can do is hope and pray things turn around and we get to flow someday or get an interview somplace else we hope to work. Sound familiar? I agree that mainline carriers everywhere need to take back the flying from the regionals. It should be truboprops regionals and mainline jets IMHO.

Rotorhead

Some of use are working at this, even on our days off.