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I should just stick to "I fart in your general direction."

Bar, thanks for all of your posts and help on improving things on both sides of the lists. Hope you don't go, I understand though. Just wait and see if there are COLAs or whatever DAL might call them before you pull that trigger.

I do not think he will. He is one person that absolutely loves to fly airplanes. Just got to keep him in ATL.....

I'm still trying to digest the info you just threw down on page 8.

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ACL, whats the ligit time table for the changes in the DCI contracts and when that comes what would it look like?

Is price the biggest hinderance to ordering more 330s and 320s or is there something else with Boeing that makes ordering more Airbuses difficult? Seems like the 319 would be better than a 100 seater.

Would 9s come to ATL or to any new base or is training and opening a base woth it if its life could be relatively limited?

Heyas ACL,

As always, thanks for your optimism....

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First none of that is new, all old info, just restating it. People sometimes need to look at the big picture. Long term thinking is what is needed to reduce peoples pulses and heat pressure here.
There are some DCI contract that come due in the next 28 months or so, after that a couple of years than two a few years after that. ASA will be here for a long time as they have 17 years left on theirs. Fact is DCI will be around for a long time, it just will not be in its current way. Loosen scope and all bets are off. They may just try it again, as it is too big of an apple not to bite.

Airbus actually makes a really good offer. The jets would come cheap. As I understand it DAL wants to make sure that Boeing as the opportunity to put its best foot forward before forever altering our relationship with them. I know, you know what I mean.
The 319/20/21 is a great jet for what it does, but if the price is right I am sure DAL would love to make the 73N work for the next 10 years until the next gen stuff starts to come on-line.
Lots of options, some are decided but many are not.
It is my understanding that ATL will probably base every type of jet DAL will have. The 9's are coming and I am sure there will have a base here. (fact for today, but maybe not tomorrow ;) )

Reality can bite, but as with everything there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Fact is we have to have jets and big jets at that to make this whole "World's Largest Airline" work.
Worst case, look at the retirements, I guess they could retire jets that quick, but there would be no airline left.

I can tell you these boys over there, have some very big plans. It is actually very exciting to hear about where we want to be in three, five and ten years post SOC. I actually have fairly good faith that if there is team that can make these plans come to fruition, this is the team.

SWA may just greenmail Delta. ALK isn't exactly cheap.

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Why do you think it's important? :confused: As an outsider, it doesn't mean anything to you anyway.

There it is fellas... the carrot for the stick. When/IF we ever get to Section 6, this will about be the time frame. Management's tactic will be predictable. "Well guys, if you want these shiny new jets, what will you be willing to give up in order to get 'em?" You heard it here first.... :mad: