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Old 06-11-2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RAHPilot5
Here comes another loan from RAH to Delta to acquire more E-jets for some J4Js maybe

or was this rumor for United... we'll see
There is a J4J rumor for DAL. Ya know CPS being sold to RAH and allowing more 76 E 175/190 so the furloughees can fly em.

I much prefer to be on the street.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There is a J4J rumor for DAL. Ya know CPS being sold to RAH and allowing more 76 E 175/190 so the furloughees can fly em.

I much prefer to be on the street.
If alpa agrees to this, again, they need to get booted!!
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Old 06-11-2009 | 07:23 PM
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I said it was a rumor, noting substantial. Yet.

ALPA cannot control the sale.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I said it was a rumor, noting substantial. Yet.

ALPA cannot control the sale.
I know but they can enforce the contract and ensure that more jobs arent outsourced though.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
I know but they can enforce the contract and ensure that more jobs arent outsourced though.
Bingo! I agree 100%, if Moak throws you guys under the bus again with scope, it would be in your best interest to send him packing.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:15 PM
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Bingo! I agree 100%, if Moak throws you guys under the bus again with scope, it would be in your best interest to send him packing.
IF IF.

I hope it does not happen, but we all can have a lot of fun before hitting the street. We will still have a vote.

It would be nice to know the total plan prior to hitting the street. IE for the OCT MEC meeting.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:31 PM
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bottom line is None of us know for sure whats going to happen, so to say furloughs are or arent going to happen is just dumb. I'm going to start making plans now just incase but only time will tell.

I still think the company will make other attempts at furlough mitigation before they drop bombs. They've done this everytime thus far so i dont see why people think they'll just ruin all those efforts by just dropping the hammer now. We have only offered one PIRP (likely will offer another round), we havent lowered maxes or offered leaves yet. i believe they'll do thatt first then drop the hammer if things stay bad. We'll see
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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
bottom line is None of us know for sure whats going to happen, so to say furloughs are or arent going to happen is just dumb.
Agree.

Im sure furloughs could be justified; however, we (DS) still has 07 guys on the ER in JFK. Furloughs would be a huge mess with furloughing guys off of ER's. The training bubble for this would make the 2001 scenario seem like a picnic.

Relax guys, until you get a letter telling you not to come to work it's not that bad. Even then it's not that bad.
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Old 06-11-2009 | 09:00 PM
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Im on the chopping block also, it's not too bad having a couple of months of prep time before dealing with something that I have no direct control over. I suppose I should have been preparing for this more "head on" for about a year now....but, late is better than never!

And there are many, many other options. It's a flea market out there!!

Also, it's worst case scenario. No sense in losing sleep either way.

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Old 06-12-2009 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
Agree.

Im sure furloughs could be justified; however, we (DS) still has 07 guys on the ER in JFK. Furloughs would be a huge mess with furloughing guys off of ER's.
Actually I think 08' guys are hanging on as well. Don't see how this would effect anything though. In fact it would probably make it easier.

If we are going to be displacing off the 7ER (as is sounds) these guys could possibly go straight from the 7ER to the street without a stop on another piece of equipment (no need to train them for their new position or their replacement).

Not nailing the coffin shut that this is going to happen, just pointing out I don't think that particular point matters.

We're jumpin the gun till we hear something.
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