Jet Blue E190 Capt pay - $131 RAH - $77
06-25-2009, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cal73
On the contrary, comparing Jetblue rates to RAH rates is like comparing Blueberries to Dingleberries.
That was funny, the whole situation is very bad, but that was funny.
Anyone remember a guy? Frank Lorenzo? He did about the same thing and the ending for some groups did not do well, except for ole' Frank, he made a pile of cash.
06-25-2009, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JetFlyer06
I think the answer to your question is we need to bring scope issues to the top of the list when it comes time for mainline contract negotiations. I'm not pointing fingers as far as who did what but we all know that scope has taken some HUGE hits in the last decade (that's an understatement). AA's union has stated they would like all American branded flying to be done by American pilots. This, while maybe unrealistic, is a good first step. There is also a grass roots effort at DAL to try and bring Compass equipment and crews onto our list. This is also a step in the right direction. We need to recapture as much flying as possible at the mainline. That way, those of us that are here can keep our jobs and those that want to move up will have the opportunity to do so.
Bring Back Scope Now!
Bring Back Scope Now!
06-25-2009, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HIREME
Not only that, but imagine the bargaining power if all flying was under one banner...that's the only reason regionals make sense from a mgmt perspective...it's about leverage
Originally Posted by 320ToBearz
Our concessionary 88 seat rates, which are now owned by Republic, are $153/hr CA, $100/hr FO. This should be opening offer.
06-26-2009, 04:50 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by RedBaron007
Why would you begin bargaining with concessionary rates? That doesn't seem to make much sense to me. You should start markedly higher, and know that your negotiating floor might be 5% higher than concessionary rates (since they are CONCESSIONARY, and not normal for an airline that is profitable). Just my $.02
06-26-2009, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HIREME
Not only that, but imagine the bargaining power if all flying was under one banner...that's the only reason regionals make sense from a mgmt perspective...it's about leverage
When you start to toss in multiple fleet types, scope issues, "protecting those at the top" on the highest paying equipment, it gets worse.
06-26-2009, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtr
Now they are buying mainline carriers...
When scabs such as these are willing to work for such low pay, what chance does anyone have at mainline pay anymore??
(I'm serious.... any ideas?)
When scabs such as these are willing to work for such low pay, what chance does anyone have at mainline pay anymore??
(I'm serious.... any ideas?)
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