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07-06-2009 | 05:22 AM
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"The trend I am seeing here is that ex-NW had to deal with management that would cancel your vacations (fixed in last contract) and find all the holes they could in the contract to use against pilots, so we learned to defend our contract tooth and nail (ask your FedEx buddies about holes in the contract). Ex-DL haven't had to deal with that ... YET. Maybe you will understand being anal about contract enforcement and contract language after they screw you a few times. A few of the major culprits are still here post-merger in key positions. I hope you don't have to experience their contract "interpretations" the way we did at NW"
With NW you saw the knife coming, at other companies...they smile and get you in the back. Personally I would rather see the knife coming.
With NW you saw the knife coming, at other companies...they smile and get you in the back. Personally I would rather see the knife coming.
07-06-2009 | 02:27 PM
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More importantly, where does it say I can't do Jepp Revisions while in flight?
07-06-2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Where exactly is this policy, because I have never read it in the FOM?
Originally Posted by iceman49
The FOM page 1.5.6, under currency of revisions.
Originally Posted by 1234
That doesn't say anything about revisions being allowed to be completed "during flight".
Originally Posted by johnso29
More importantly, where does it say I can't do Jepp Revisions while in flight?
Where exactly is this policy, because I have never read it in the FOM?
Originally Posted by iceman49
The FOM page 1.5.6, under currency of revisions.
Originally Posted by 1234
That doesn't say anything about revisions being allowed to be completed "during flight".
Originally Posted by johnso29
More importantly, where does it say I can't do Jepp Revisions while in flight?
Anyone thats been here for more than 10 years probably remembers when that changed.
07-07-2009 | 04:34 AM
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Sailing is correct. I was referring to the time involved. DAL pays for the Russian and French visas. They pay for the renewal of the passports etc.
They do not pay for your time, and that is allowed by the PWA. It is a cost of doing business I guess.
You also have your continuing Qual approved by the PWA. It has run 400+ minutes in years past as well. They pay for it is minimal, but once again, that is established in the PWA.
I personally think that in 2012 we should make it real easy. 5:15 for any day you show for work. That means 15:45 for your requal sim, 5:15 if you show up and scheduling cancels your rotation, not this 2:00 suit up pay, 5:15 for every day you sit reserve etc.
Some will argue this, but it is just the cost of doing business.
They do not pay for your time, and that is allowed by the PWA. It is a cost of doing business I guess.
You also have your continuing Qual approved by the PWA. It has run 400+ minutes in years past as well. They pay for it is minimal, but once again, that is established in the PWA.
I personally think that in 2012 we should make it real easy. 5:15 for any day you show for work. That means 15:45 for your requal sim, 5:15 if you show up and scheduling cancels your rotation, not this 2:00 suit up pay, 5:15 for every day you sit reserve etc.
Some will argue this, but it is just the cost of doing business.
07-07-2009 | 06:11 AM
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Sailing is correct. I was referring to the time involved. DAL pays for the Russian and French visas. They pay for the renewal of the passports etc.
They do not pay for your time, and that is allowed by the PWA. It is a cost of doing business I guess.
You also have your continuing Qual approved by the PWA. It has run 400+ minutes in years past as well. They pay for it is minimal, but once again, that is established in the PWA.
I personally think that in 2012 we should make it real easy. 5:15 for any day you show for work. That means 15:45 for your requal sim, 5:15 if you show up and scheduling cancels your rotation, not this 2:00 suit up pay, 5:15 for every day you sit reserve etc.
Some will argue this, but it is just the cost of doing business.
They do not pay for your time, and that is allowed by the PWA. It is a cost of doing business I guess.
You also have your continuing Qual approved by the PWA. It has run 400+ minutes in years past as well. They pay for it is minimal, but once again, that is established in the PWA.
I personally think that in 2012 we should make it real easy. 5:15 for any day you show for work. That means 15:45 for your requal sim, 5:15 if you show up and scheduling cancels your rotation, not this 2:00 suit up pay, 5:15 for every day you sit reserve etc.
Some will argue this, but it is just the cost of doing business.
07-07-2009 | 12:52 PM
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