SWA 'seriously considering' Canada/Mexico/Car
08-21-2009 | 08:52 AM
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If they can make a profit off of cheap fares while still paying their employees decent wages good for them.
08-21-2009 | 10:25 AM
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Let me save the haters some keystrokes:
Can you believe the hubris of Gary and those SWA guys, they think they're the Tiger Woods of the airline industry! I can't wait until SWA starts furloughing like the rest of the industry, then they won't be so cocky...hahahaha!
...or something to that effect is how this thread will go, right?
Can you believe the hubris of Gary and those SWA guys, they think they're the Tiger Woods of the airline industry! I can't wait until SWA starts furloughing like the rest of the industry, then they won't be so cocky...hahahaha!
...or something to that effect is how this thread will go, right?
08-21-2009 | 12:06 PM
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Well, my comment was in no way meant to imply that SWA is impervious to all those industry pitfalls, like I said in an earlier post, "we'll see," and I'm not even employed by them (yet...hopefully). I was just really just poking fun at those few on here that seem to lurk in waiting and jump on anything that can be construed in the slightest bit as arrogant by SWA, and then blast away. I think it goes both ways, certain over zealouos pro-SWA folks do add fuel to that fire on here as well. But I don't want to hijack the thread, so back on point...
I would love to see near international growth, it's gonna happen sooner or later. Maybe the F9 thing falling through has pushed that agenda to the left a bit?
I would love to see near international growth, it's gonna happen sooner or later. Maybe the F9 thing falling through has pushed that agenda to the left a bit?
08-21-2009 | 08:07 PM
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08-22-2009 | 09:01 AM
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Let me save the haters some keystrokes:
Can you believe the hubris of Gary and those SWA guys, they think they're the Tiger Woods of the airline industry! I can't wait until SWA starts furloughing like the rest of the industry, then they won't be so cocky...hahahaha!
...or something to that effect is how this thread will go, right?
Can you believe the hubris of Gary and those SWA guys, they think they're the Tiger Woods of the airline industry! I can't wait until SWA starts furloughing like the rest of the industry, then they won't be so cocky...hahahaha!
...or something to that effect is how this thread will go, right?
Bow wow
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08-22-2009 | 11:03 AM
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Another bankrupt airline?.....Or to get that west coast revenue pumped up(stagnated for years) because of market saturation and no new markert opportunities...Jump in with Alaska.
Similar situation as Frontier but not a desperate grab at a possible deal --takes away a much stronger competitor in many overlapping markets. Gains Mexico, Hawaii and Alaska destinations.
Similar 737NG fleet.
Horizon not a problem - great operation in it's own niche. Already shown the regional feeder scenario not a showstopper (Lynx).
Great employees with similar seniority and culture.
Prevents American/Jet Blue/Airtran/Delwest etc.
Outside of the box to the left when everyone is looking to the right.
Similar situation as Frontier but not a desperate grab at a possible deal --takes away a much stronger competitor in many overlapping markets. Gains Mexico, Hawaii and Alaska destinations.
Similar 737NG fleet.
Horizon not a problem - great operation in it's own niche. Already shown the regional feeder scenario not a showstopper (Lynx).
Great employees with similar seniority and culture.
Prevents American/Jet Blue/Airtran/Delwest etc.
Outside of the box to the left when everyone is looking to the right.
08-22-2009 | 11:24 AM
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Friday August 21, 2009
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Southwest Airlines Chairman, President and CEO Gary Kelly said the LCC is "seriously considering" operating international flights as soon as 2011 and also remains interested in acquiring troubled assets from rival carriers following its failed bid to purchase Frontier Airlines.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Kelly said there are plenty of markets to which SWA still can expand (it currently serves 67). "If you're just talking about the domestic US, I think there are a dozen [potential expansion cities]," he said. "If you add international markets, there are dozens. . .The 737 can do Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean. . .We're seriously considering that. . .2011 [would be] the earliest that we'd be flying international metal."
SWA previously announced its intention to give customers access to Canada and Mexico via codesharing; a partnership with WestJet was supposed to begin this year but has been delayed, likely until late 2010 (ATWOnline, May 27).
Regarding Frontier, Kelly likened SWA's losing out to Republic Airways Holdings (ATWOnline, Aug. 14) to the world's top golfer recently losing the PGA Championship. "Even Tiger Woods doesn't win every tournament," he told the newspaper. "We'll be back in the game for the next tournament. It's a matter of being opportunistic. Any time you've got a competitor failing in bankruptcy, that presents an opportunity."
He said Southwest could grow 10% via an acquisition, as would have been the case with Frontier, but much larger growth would be "a huge risk" not worth taking. He added that acquiring regional airlines is "not our vision going forward."
by Aaron Karp
ATW Daily News
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Southwest Airlines Chairman, President and CEO Gary Kelly said the LCC is "seriously considering" operating international flights as soon as 2011 and also remains interested in acquiring troubled assets from rival carriers following its failed bid to purchase Frontier Airlines.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Kelly said there are plenty of markets to which SWA still can expand (it currently serves 67). "If you're just talking about the domestic US, I think there are a dozen [potential expansion cities]," he said. "If you add international markets, there are dozens. . .The 737 can do Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean. . .We're seriously considering that. . .2011 [would be] the earliest that we'd be flying international metal."
SWA previously announced its intention to give customers access to Canada and Mexico via codesharing; a partnership with WestJet was supposed to begin this year but has been delayed, likely until late 2010 (ATWOnline, May 27).
Regarding Frontier, Kelly likened SWA's losing out to Republic Airways Holdings (ATWOnline, Aug. 14) to the world's top golfer recently losing the PGA Championship. "Even Tiger Woods doesn't win every tournament," he told the newspaper. "We'll be back in the game for the next tournament. It's a matter of being opportunistic. Any time you've got a competitor failing in bankruptcy, that presents an opportunity."
He said Southwest could grow 10% via an acquisition, as would have been the case with Frontier, but much larger growth would be "a huge risk" not worth taking. He added that acquiring regional airlines is "not our vision going forward."
by Aaron Karp
ATW Daily News
Adding Alaska would be a growth of over 20%. Plus acquiring horizon would go against their vision. But then again, you never know. It is the airlines. 10% would be around 50 planes.
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