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10-25-2009 | 02:59 PM
#22
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I just hope that their claim of not falling asleep is the truth because if it's not, things will only get worse for them. Also, I hope the F/O had the Company's permission to speak to the media after the incident, because a lot of companies have policies in the company manual that prohibit any media statements by anyone involved in an incident/accident until the investigation is complete.
10-25-2009 | 03:12 PM
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HSLD,
Are you really that curious? OK, in this case if they were indeed having a conversation that kept them NORDO for close to an hour, there are big problems indeed. Most events are understandable, some are not. I can't comprehend a professional pilot that irresponsible. So the other distinct possiblility is that they fell asleep. Unfortunately, this happens. Happens to aviators, truckers, etc. Sometimes physiology takes its toll. Do you honestly believe these guys were having a conversation where they completely lost situational awareness for close to an hour?
Are you really that curious? OK, in this case if they were indeed having a conversation that kept them NORDO for close to an hour, there are big problems indeed. Most events are understandable, some are not. I can't comprehend a professional pilot that irresponsible. So the other distinct possiblility is that they fell asleep. Unfortunately, this happens. Happens to aviators, truckers, etc. Sometimes physiology takes its toll. Do you honestly believe these guys were having a conversation where they completely lost situational awareness for close to an hour?
10-25-2009 | 03:33 PM
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HSLD is attempting to portray himself as a voice of reason unaffected by emotion. His tone is that of a lawyer. He would prefer all discussion of the NWA incident cease until an investigation is complete. This is a defense mechanism.
Turning a blind eye to the facts in the name of an official investigation ignores the obvious. This crew is guilty of negligence. The public knows this. The media knows this. The pilots know this. Even HSLD knows this.
Turning a blind eye to the facts in the name of an official investigation ignores the obvious. This crew is guilty of negligence. The public knows this. The media knows this. The pilots know this. Even HSLD knows this.
10-25-2009 | 03:37 PM
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HSLD,
Are you really that curious? OK, in this case if they were indeed having a conversation that kept them NORDO for close to an hour, there are big problems indeed. Most events are understandable, some are not. I can't comprehend a professional pilot that irresponsible. So the other distinct possiblility is that they fell asleep. Unfortunately, this happens. Happens to aviators, truckers, etc. Sometimes physiology takes its toll. Do you honestly believe these guys were having a conversation where they completely lost situational awareness for close to an hour?
Are you really that curious? OK, in this case if they were indeed having a conversation that kept them NORDO for close to an hour, there are big problems indeed. Most events are understandable, some are not. I can't comprehend a professional pilot that irresponsible. So the other distinct possiblility is that they fell asleep. Unfortunately, this happens. Happens to aviators, truckers, etc. Sometimes physiology takes its toll. Do you honestly believe these guys were having a conversation where they completely lost situational awareness for close to an hour?
10-25-2009 | 03:40 PM
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And what are the facts - other than what you can parrot off of the media reports?
10-25-2009 | 03:48 PM
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Media reports are helpful and relevant. I know you hate that. I trust the media reports more than I trust whatever the lawyers can dream up in the meantime. You have to be able to read between the lines on your own my friend.
10-25-2009 | 03:49 PM
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My name is Tony Williams, and I have dozed off in flight.
10-25-2009 | 03:52 PM
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10-25-2009 | 04:05 PM
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on each of those points, my friend.
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