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Old 11-21-2009 | 05:30 AM
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In most other countries this would result in a strike. It's illegal here. I say we threaten it anyways, and carry through if Obama signs. Does he really want to be the person responsible for a massive nationwide airline strike that brings a struggling economy to its knees, all over CVRs? I think not. The threat should be enough...if ALPA has the balls to even threaten illegal action.
Unfortunately, we don't have the solidarity required to conduct such a strike.....not even close.
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Old 11-21-2009 | 07:10 AM
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Unfortunately, we don't have the solidarity required to conduct such a strike.....not even close.
It's hard to have any solidarity when it's illegal to try and plan an industry wide strike. So far I have not seen any strike get completely usurped by scabs, the worst case was just a few percentages of the entire group.

Trying to start a grassroots effort would be near impossible without getting the feds interested. Just ranting on APC will not be enough to get everyone on board.

If you can think of a better way to spread the word and organize something without getting your butt thrown in jail long before anything can happen we're all ears.
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Old 11-21-2009 | 07:15 AM
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I sent that clown an email.....
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Old 11-21-2009 | 07:47 AM
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If and when anything like this goes into affect, I think pilots will become a little smarter than the situation. At the moment CVR's are not tamper proof. I know my aircraft has a circuit breaker that is easily accessible. If not, I would think the microphone couldn't be buried too deep. Just take off the headsets and .............oooppss I spilled a cup of hot coffee on the microphone (if it's on the ceiling......damn that turbulence!). Make them spend lots of money on new systems. If you think the goverment will pay for it, think about the ATC situation. That's one of the main reasons we don't have a new air traffic control system. Because the companies have to pay for the retrofit and refuse.
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Old 11-21-2009 | 01:36 PM
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Don't most CVR's have an erase button? Can't you just erase at the end of every successful flight.
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Old 11-21-2009 | 02:11 PM
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Unfortunatly even if you "press to test" the cvr button at the end of the flight, it s still recoverable..
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Old 11-21-2009 | 02:32 PM
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If this bill gets legs, we need to have the most hellacious national slowdown any country has ever seen.

This crap has got to stop.
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Old 11-21-2009 | 02:40 PM
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So if this passes, how long until theres a major crash where hundreds of people die and the key to preventing it from happening again is on the CVR.... which is found to have been deactivated by the pilots? I wonder if congress has thought of that one yet. Way to make aviation less safe, lawmakers!

In a pure sense, deactivating CVRs and nationwide slowdowns is a lot more "unprofessional" than 2 idiots having one isolated incident flying past an airport on their laptops. Kind of funny that a "pilot professionalism act" would directly cause a decrease in professionalism. (Not that I'm against it)
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Old 11-21-2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Packer Backer
Don't most CVR's have an erase button? Can't you just erase at the end of every successful flight.
I remember during ground school that pressing the erase button does not erase; it only makes the info harder to get to
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Old 11-21-2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by yamahas3
So if this passes, how long until theres a major crash where hundreds of people die and the key to preventing it from happening again is on the CVR.... which is found to have been deactivated by the pilots? I wonder if congress has thought of that one yet. Way to make aviation less safe, lawmakers!

In a pure sense, deactivating CVRs and nationwide slowdowns is a lot more "unprofessional" than 2 idiots having one isolated incident flying past an airport on their laptops. Kind of funny that a "pilot professionalism act" would directly cause a decrease in professionalism. (Not that I'm against it)
While I don't agree with your previous post's premise in regards to NWA188, I do agree with this post in regards to the consequences of this bill.
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