captainchipotle

1. eat 2-3 hard boiled eggs every morning
2. deny, deny, deny
3.

Trogdor

I saw a Condor 767 on the ramp in DEN yesterday parked at the same gate where Lufthansa usually parks. Also, the departure boards in the terminal showed the Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt canceled, and this Condor flight as "on-time" to Frankfurt.

(I have pictures, but I don't know how to upload them into my post, sorry.)

Jakob

Yes! to a certain extent at least: Condor does not belong to Lufthansa anymore and they recruit their own pilots, so it was probably not direct KTV (Lufthansa contract) pilots at least! But British Airlines, BMI etc were flying Lufthansa routes too... I don't want to offend anyone as I am not aware of the rules, circumstances and laws in GB, but I did find it strange that Lufthansa was able to operate almost 1/3 of their flights (partly with management pilots on own aircraft and party with charters from all over the world).

However, the fight is not lost! The strike is not completely ended - Lufthansa and VC only agreed that there will be no more strikes until March the 8th. Until then they will be in negotiations without any preconditions (which is good). If Lufthansa still refuses to agree on a fair and reasonable contract and primarily won't respect current contracts, then the strike is going to begin again - I'm pretty sure about that! And as much as it already hurt the company this time around (flights are expected to operate normally no earlier than friday) I'm sure it will hurt even more next time!

Let's just hope VC hangs in there and won't settle for less than a fair and long-term agreement!

Regards,
Jakob

BA Pilot

By British Airlines I presume you mean British Airways [sic].

That part is most certainly untrue, although I imagine that BMI may have flown some additional Lufthansa services.

For those who don't know, Lufthansa own 80% of BMI and BMI already fly Lufthansa services from LHR on their behalf.

ATCsaidDoWhat

And ALWAYS make sure the Lead/Purser know. Of course since you would always want to be PC, the correct thing to say would be:

"Hi, I'm ___. I'm F/O on the trip and I'm not the one who crossed the line in '85."

Jakob

Hello BA Pilot,

first of all please excuse my ignorance! What I said was a mistake - I had just read about "BALPA" pilots flying those routes and stupidly assumed they would only be from British Airways (and sorry about that too, I've been really tired the past few days - please, no offence!).

So let me correct what I said wrongly before: BMI pilots (BALPA union) flew Lufthansa routes. However, as far as I've read, they could not do anything about it and were legally forced to fly as strikebreakers!

So again, sorry BA Pilot and sorry to all British Airways pilots - I did not mean to offend you! Thanks for supporting the Lufthansa pilots and I hope your cabin crew can also reach their goals soon (I've read they have voted in favor of a strike as well!)!

Thanks, please no hard feelings and all the best!

Jakob

Phantom Flyer

Vaughn Cordle (FN # 21086; Seniority # 2435; Retires Feb. 2020) was definitely a SCAB during the United strike in 1985 and he, like all other SCABS does not get an opinion on anything !

The most enjoyable experience one can have is to fly with a &^%$# SCAB for 4 days, do your job as professionally as possible and not say a single word to him/her for four solid days. I've seen them explode with anger on the last day and one got so mad he went to the Chief Pilot demanding that I actually speak to him. Didn't work as the Boss hated them more than any of us did.

Have fun Mates and it'a all fair game with those low life's !

tortue

So how does that work? They try to talk to you and you just flat out ignore them?

I take it that they've got this treatment so frequently that they stop trying after a few minutes?

dojetdriver

I remember JS'ing home one time on UAL and the CA/FO brought up this point. I asked them if in the case of the CA being a scab, and the FO not, and the above happening, the CA calls scheduling and has the FO pulled off mid trip, if the FO an face any repercussions.

The CA said that once they see that the CA is a scab, that the FO is simply removed and sent home and won't hear a word about it. Is/was that true?

Just asking.

Bucking Bar

As long as you do your job, there is no requirement to engage in idle chit chat. In fact, management works so hard at getting folks to comply with sterile cockpit that they are not going to mind a guy who takes the definition of sterile cockpit from the before start to the shutdown check.