Lufthansa Strike - A scab's point of view
02-25-2010 | 04:37 AM
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I remember JS'ing home one time on UAL and the CA/FO brought up this point. I asked them if in the case of the CA being a scab, and the FO not, and the above happening, the CA calls scheduling and has the FO pulled off mid trip, if the FO an face any repercussions.
The CA said that once they see that the CA is a scab, that the FO is simply removed and sent home and won't hear a word about it. Is/was that true?
Just asking.
The CA said that once they see that the CA is a scab, that the FO is simply removed and sent home and won't hear a word about it. Is/was that true?
Just asking.
As for a F/O being pulled off a trip, it did happen and he went home, got paid for the trip and that was it. Let's see...what's wrong with this picture ??
Have a bodacious day Mates
02-25-2010 | 07:41 AM
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Every situation was different and handled as such. Usually, the Captain was the SCAB and the F/O's just did their job to the best of their ability and didn't engage in "idle chatter" enroute. As stupid as SCABS were, they got the point and on most occasions, one could hear a pin drop in the cockpit. It didn't make for a very enjoyable four day trip and didn't happen that often. At United, a lot of the SCABS ran to Denver to the training center, which was an entirely different matter.
As for a F/O being pulled off a trip, it did happen and he went home, got paid for the trip and that was it. Let's see...what's wrong with this picture ??
Have a bodacious day Mates
As for a F/O being pulled off a trip, it did happen and he went home, got paid for the trip and that was it. Let's see...what's wrong with this picture ??
Have a bodacious day Mates
Where as under normal circumstances (you know, a non-scab CA), such action might attract the attention of pro standards and/or the CP.
02-25-2010 | 10:14 AM
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A number of years ago I was jumpseating on Northwest. The cockpit was really quiet, so I didn't say anything. A couple of hours into the flight the F/O had to get up to use the restroom. He packed up all his charts, put them in his flight bag, put on his tie and hat and uniform jacket and overcoat, and took his suitcase and flight bag with him to the restroom. While he was gone the Capt and S/O told me that he had scabbed on their last strike.
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02-25-2010 | 10:25 AM
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02-25-2010 | 11:15 AM
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A number of years ago I was jumpseating on Northwest. The cockpit was really quiet, so I didn't say anything. A couple of hours into the flight the F/O had to get up to use the restroom. He packed up all his charts, put them in his flight bag, put on his tie and hat and uniform jacket and overcoat, and took his suitcase and flight bag with him to the restroom. While he was gone the Capt and S/O told me that he had scabbed on their last strike.
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02-25-2010 | 07:58 PM
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so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.
02-25-2010 | 08:39 PM
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so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.
Most SCABS have a story as to why they were "forced" to SCAB and how it was out of their control. When in fact they are completely self serving and when given the chance IE placed in positions of power totally abusive towards guys who got here the honest way.
02-26-2010 | 05:14 AM
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Piece of Work
so in the case where the CA is the scab, and the FO is not, I take it most of you in that position would just not talk to him, as has been mentioned many times. I'm curious though, does the CA just say "Well eff you, if you won't talk to me, I'm flying all the legs," because that's what I would imagine would happen. These guys seem like real pieces of work.
You're right about one thing...almost all were real pieces of work, as pilots and individuals.
'Nuff said. Have a Great day Mates
02-26-2010 | 05:17 AM
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I have met a few SCABS in my life. One lives by me and is a double SCAB. Cal from 83-85 then left for greener pastures at Ual in 85. Not one ounce of regret, actually pride in getting 15+ years at Ual and retiring a 767 Ca prior to the paycuts. Now what I am going to say will ruffle some feathers but every SCAB I have met has been a diehard conservative. Not saying all conservatives are SCABS but I'll bet most SCABS are conservatives. Just sayin.....
02-26-2010 | 05:56 AM
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I don't see your point.A conservative child molester is still a child molester.
Just sayin'.
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