sinca3

Why post DOS +4 yrs?
Capt got a 10% raise and FO's got 18%

johnso29

The CA rates look nice, but the FO rates take a while. I make $94 on 3rd yr at DAL. I'll be $99.60 on 4th year. Bummer.

Anyway, a Congrats is still in order. You guys have deserved it for a while .

SourGrapes

Why don't you post DOS number instead of rates for 5 years from now? Are you embarrassed?

emj55

I dont have time to type 4 seperate years of pay. Why don't you?

BoredwLife

I deleted mine otherwise I would post it.

SourGrapes

because I'm embarrassed and ashamed and have thrown up 3 times today. I am too physically ill to copy and paste now....maybe later...

Sailor

Sour, you are THE embarrassment, same kind as Patty, a person that would not hesitate to back stab anyone for a penny.

Contract passed, live with it or leave the company and go for what you are looking for. Obviously you can find it here.

Every time you put this TA-Contract down, you are embarrassing yourself and us.

Grow up dude!.

And if you disapprove, run for NC next time, lets see what you have.

Cheers.

A320Flyer

Copied and pasted, so excuse any errors or font problems....


[FONT=']2. Definitions[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Check-in is now 45 minutes in domicile[/FONT]
[FONT=']*International flying excludes above 15 degrees N. Lat, except for Cuba which is still international.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*XX-EEE defines RAP's and associated verbage. [/FONT]

[FONT=']3. Compensation (see end of post)[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Open time pick-up now 100% over guarantee. (used to be 150%)[/FONT]
[FONT=']*A-321 paid at 110% based on ratio of total system-wide block time A-321 to A-319/320.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Taxi or maintenance engine run pay increased from 24 minutes to 30 minutes.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Signing bonus on second pay day following DOS of $3,000 for captains and $7,000 for first officers.[/FONT]

[FONT=']4. Minimum Guarantees[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Minimum pay credit of 4.5 hours for multi-day trips(including 4.5 for layover>22 hrs) and 4.0 for single duty period trips.[/FONT]

[FONT=']5. Expenses[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Unlimited complimentary high-speed internet access both in-room and in business center.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Provision for over-booking to provide equal or better facility within reasonable proximity.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Per-diem is now $2.00/hr, for all trips away from domicile, increasing by $.05 on DOS+2, and an additional $.05 for DOS+3-5.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Company and association will confer on need for armed guard on van ride (like Lima, Peru).[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilot will be allowed sufficient time to obtain nourishment.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilot allowed choosing which city to have free parking for domicile.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilot to be allowed employee rate for any other company station in addition to designated.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilot passport application renewal and expedited renewal fees shall be reimbursed.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Visa application fees charged by foreign country when duties require visa shall be reimbursed.[/FONT]

[FONT=']6. Moving Expenses[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Transfer allowance now $1300.[/FONT]

[FONT=']7. Vacations[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Floating vacation time shall be granted when 10% reserve coverage exists per seat, per aircraft type, system-wide.[/FONT]


[FONT=']8. Deadheading[/FONT]

[FONT='][SIZE=3]*Deadheading pilots not given priority for BFS's (big seats), until after takeoff.[/SIZE

[FONT=']9. Training Pilots

[FONT=']*Designated examiner while performing type rating events is now $50/hr override.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Line checks or standardizations observations from the jumpseat credited at $20/hr override.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Except for termination, no pilot will be removed from pay status due to any failure unless subject of FAA certificate action.[/FONT]


[FONT=']12. Hours of Service[/FONT]

[FONT=']*IF any part of duty period touches 0100-0400, limited to 11.5 hours of duty extendable to 12.5.[/FONT]
[FONT=']FFDO leave added. Pilot allowed to be paid from vacation, or voluntary time off without pay.[/FONT]

[FONT=']23. Furlough and Recall[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Now required 30 day notice for furlough. Any less and pilot will be paid each day less than 30.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilots shall continue to accrue longevity for pay purposes for up to one year on furlough.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Pilots returning from furlough will now be allowed to submit system-wide preference listing and participate in the bid award process prior to requalification.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Furloughed pilots now have 30 days to accept recall.[/FONT]

[FONT=']25. Scheduling[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Minumum of 4 days off between trips and or block of reserve days. (retained)
[FONT=']*Regular lines built to no more than 90 hours now. (increased)[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Relief lines no less than 15 days off.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Transition conflicts now have 2 options: former option 2-modified, and default transition option (break up trip and pay protect leftover).[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Addition of possible Electronic Shift Trade and first-come, first-served trading of open time.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Addition of Jet-Way trades: one pilot agrees to let another pilot operate a leg of a pairing by calling scheduling directly.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Rescheduling allowed up to 4 hours before original report and 4 hours after release time. One hour paid above guarantee for each: >2,>3 hours before original report or after original release.[/FONT]
[FONT=']RAP's[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Reserve RAP shifting (new, and non-existent in any other pilot contract):[/FONT]
[FONT=']*First day of RAP may not be changed.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Last day of RAP in block of days for assignment cannot terminate beyond RAP+4.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*On last day of RAP in block of reserve days, without an assignment, automatically released 6 hours prior to end of RAP.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*RAP may be shifted up to 12 hours cumulative within block of reserve days (resets to zero every new block of reserve days or new bid period).[/FONT]
[FONT=']*No pilot in active service at DOS may be furloughed as a result of the amendments to this section.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Commuter policy now has no limitations on frequency of use.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Electronic Shift Trade will be fully automated at DOS+6 months.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Crew Utilization Reports available by 7[FONT=']th[/FONT][FONT='] of every month.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=']*Daily availability online to reserves: relative position, reserve availability, seniority, assigned RAP, and flight credit accumulation.[/FONT]

[FONT=']27. Insurance[/FONT]

[FONT=']*Some rates going up.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Health Fund Diamond premiums remain the same.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*POS-Plan A premiums almost double.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*POS-Plan B premiums increase in some categories by as much as 43 %( EE only)[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Select (EPO) premiums remain the same.[/FONT]
[FONT=']*POS-Plan A and POS-Plan B annual deductibles, and payment limit (out of pocket maximums) are in some cases increasing by as much as 375%[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Company can increase insurance costs beyond what's stated above by as much as 7% per year.[/FONT]

[FONT=']28. Retirement[/FONT]

[FONT=']*401k match increases to 9% at DOS+4. (currently/stays at 8% at DOS)[/FONT]
[FONT=']*Addition of Roth Elective Deferrals.[/FONT]

Captain Pay Rates

Years of Service DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4

1 64.65 64.65 65.94 99.62 101.62
2 96.64 96.64 98.57 119.49 121.88
3 104.46 104.46 106.55 124.04 126.52
4 108.14 108.14 110.30 128.78 131.35
5 115.51 115.51 117.82 133.68 136.35
6 117.65 117.65 120.00 138.78 141.56
7 119.74 119.74 122.13 143.73 146.60
8 133.68 139.16 141.94 147.73 150.68
9 135.69 142.27 145.12 152.15 155.20
10 137.73 145.44 148.35 156.72 159.86
11 140.53 149.10 152.08 161.43 164.65
12 143.30 152.84 155.90 166.27 169.60
13 146.09 156.61 159.74 171.25 174.67
14 148.90 160.44 163.65 176.40 179.93
15 151.67 164.33 167.62 181.68 185.32

First Officer Pay Rates

Years of Service DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4

1 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50 38.50
2 61.31 66.22 67.54 70.63 72.05
3 66.38 71.69 73.12 76.21 77.73
4 71.39 77.10 78.65 82.22 83.86
5 76.35 82.45 84.10 88.19 89.96
6 78.77 85.07 86.77 93.57 95.44
7 80.77 87.23 88.98 97.97 99.93
8 82.60 89.21 90.99 101.16 103.19
9 83.19 89.85 91.64 104.13 106.21
10 84.22 90.96 92.78 107.13 109.27

I voted NO.

SourGrapes

Why am I an embarrassment if I think we got a poor deal on this contract? If I want to be upset that we did not even match jetblue payscale by 18 bucks an hour (that's 15%), let me. I do not need to grow up just because I disagree with you. 1 out of 4 of us feel the same way. Alpa brought us to a strike for pay parity. We did not get. We gave up way too many things for this. Sorry, we lost. But what do I know, I'm just a dumb idiot.

Cheers!

Sailor

You are not an idiot or dumb, just obtuse... JB pay!!, get a job with them folks and work with their work rules. We like it here just like it is. And now it got better.

Cheers