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Old 12-02-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
People change but the process remains the same. DALPA has decided against "traditional bargaining." Your post alludes to that fact. Once openers are exchanged, we'll take the first offer as long as it's fast and avoids traditional Section 6. Guaranteed. Just like C2012.

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I guess that's why the RJs flying in Delta colors have 82 seats in them.
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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Well I'll keep in mind that you've polled the ATL pilots.
Like I said, if it makes you sleep better......

Internet is amazing. Just stumbled on to ALPAs LM-2 for 2012

Wow. Now, how do I go about getting itemized bills from some of those "eateries." ? ?
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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:22 PM
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Like I said, if it makes you sleep better......

Internet is amazing. Just stumbled on to ALPAs LM-2 for 2012

Wow. Now, how do I go about getting itemized bills from some of those "eateries." ? ?
Once again....where are your official numbers of "dissatisfied customers" coming from? An anonymous web board? Such as this one? BTW if it was so easy to find ALPA's LM-2 data for 2012, do you really think they were trying to hide it?
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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
People change but the process remains the same. DALPA has decided against "traditional bargaining." Your post alludes to that fact. Once openers are exchanged, we'll take the first offer as long as it's fast and avoids traditional Section 6. Guaranteed. Just like C2012.
Originally Posted by johnso29
I guess that's why the RJs flying in Delta colors have 82 seats in them.
And you know the company's first offer was 82 seat RJ's how?

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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
And you know the company's first offer was 82 seat RJ's how?

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Because I've actually spoke to all 3 negotiators. Face to face. Management finally gave up on this item on the 2nd to last day of negotiations.
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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Once again....where are your official numbers of "dissatisfied customers" coming from? An anonymous web board? Such as this one? BTW if it was so easy to find ALPA's LM-2 data for 2012, do you really think they were trying to hide it?
Federal law requires an LM-2 to be filed, so no, ALPA can't hide it the way they used to.

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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Because I've actually spoke to all 3 negotiators. Face to face. Management finally gave up on this item on the 2nd to last day of negotiations.
Bull sh!t.

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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Bull sh!t.

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Based on what?
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Old 12-02-2013 | 12:48 PM
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Based on what?
Based on the fact that even IF such a conversation took place, it's just that. We used to be able to back that up because NWALPA mailed us the company's opener and our opener right after they were exchanged. I've not seen such a document as a DALPA member.

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Old 12-02-2013 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
BTW if it was so easy to find ALPA's LM-2 data for 2012, do you really think they were trying to hide it?

Ummmm. No on the hiding. For now. About those itemized receipts, that ought to be quite interesting, let's see about that though.

But man, does that make some interesting reading.


A good chunk of the office staff, which there are many, make six
figures.


I did some back of the napkin math on the production folks, printers, postage, etc for the most expensive magazine subscription we all have. Millions.

I could go on and on.

But, why keep the magazine at those costs. We have email now. It's an anachronism. Cut it, put the savings into ALPA PAC

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