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12-27-2010, 01:50 PM
#3731
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: B-7ER JFK
Posts: 931
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yes. Just wrapping up a 12 day trip. Of my 8 fellow augment crew members on this trip, 4 have already turned in their cards along with money. 3 had never heard of DPA, and are now turning in their cards. 1 was unsure but said he is leaning toward "sticking it out" with ALPA.
Carl
Carl
12-27-2010, 08:26 PM
#3732
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Just curious, acl, what did DPA say to these guys? Did they return their card?
Many of them first and foremost though it was the wrong time for an independent drive and ALPA would better serve us going in to C2012.
DAL 88, As my comments indicate, these are guys I figured would not pull their cards. They did. I am surprised. They just wanted to let me know. No more no less. Some gave the reason above, some just told me to give em a shout some time. I have been gone for two weeks enjoying my family. Just got home, and if I get the time I will get em a shout. I see trips in the pot that it appears they cannot cover, so I dropped a GS in to see if I can get 20 some hrs of pay for little to no work.
12-27-2010, 08:30 PM
#3733
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
No idea. They just told me they wrote them asking for their card to be pulled. I have not heard what the response has been from DPA.
Many of them first and foremost though it was the wrong time for an independent drive and ALPA would better serve us going in to C2012.
DAL 88, As my comments indicate, these are guys I figured would not pull their cards. They did. I am surprised. They just wanted to let me know. No more no less. Some gave the reason above, some just told me to give em a shout some time. I have been gone for two weeks enjoying my family. Just got home, and if I get the time I will get em a shout. I see trips in the pot that it appears they cannot cover, so I dropped a GS in to see if I can get 20 some hrs of pay for little to no work.
Many of them first and foremost though it was the wrong time for an independent drive and ALPA would better serve us going in to C2012.
DAL 88, As my comments indicate, these are guys I figured would not pull their cards. They did. I am surprised. They just wanted to let me know. No more no less. Some gave the reason above, some just told me to give em a shout some time. I have been gone for two weeks enjoying my family. Just got home, and if I get the time I will get em a shout. I see trips in the pot that it appears they cannot cover, so I dropped a GS in to see if I can get 20 some hrs of pay for little to no work.
Pretty stupid to pull your yard, IMO. What does it accomplish? Nothing. The card simply brings it up to a vote.
12-27-2010, 08:32 PM
#3734
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
DAL 88, As my comments indicate, these are guys I figured would not pull their cards. They did. I am surprised. They just wanted to let me know. No more no less. Some gave the reason above, some just told me to give em a shout some time. I have been gone for two weeks enjoying my family. Just got home, and if I get the time I will get em a shout. I see trips in the pot that it appears they cannot cover, so I dropped a GS in to see if I can get 20 some hrs of pay for little to no work.
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I'm just curious. What is the exact number of guys who sent you emails telling you they had written DPA to "pull their cards?"
Also, I'm glad to see that you are interested in "their deeper reasoning" for doing this. Do you have the same interest in the "deeper reasoning" of the guys who have sent in cards and not asked them to be pulled?
Also, I'm glad to see that you are interested in "their deeper reasoning" for doing this. Do you have the same interest in the "deeper reasoning" of the guys who have sent in cards and not asked them to be pulled?
12-28-2010, 01:33 AM
#3737
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Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 593
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Pretty stupid to pull your yard, IMO. What does it accomplish? Nothing. The card simply brings it up to a vote.
12-28-2010, 04:41 AM
#3738
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Top
Posts: 472
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
A vote to bring about a vote, sure.
Either way, you're voting.
12-28-2010, 04:48 AM
#3739
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 767ER capt
Posts: 1,190
Regardless of whether guys are pulling their cards or not, we're approaching the point where the first cards sent in will expire. That was the point at which the PPA movement imploded in the late 90's.
12-28-2010, 04:59 AM
#3740
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,462
Originally Posted by CVG767A
Regardless of whether guys are pulling their cards or not, we're approaching the point where the first cards sent in will expire. That was the point at which the PPA movement imploded in the late 90's.
1) they aren't being nearly as transparent as they wish ALPA to be, or
2) they don't have nearly as many cards as they wish they had
Anonymous movements never gain much traction; this appears to be no different. And the worst part is, SOME of their points have merit. But their methods destined them to failure.
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