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Old 06-12-2015, 04:10 PM
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Can a NH still on probation send in a card, or is that considered verboten?
Appreciate the sentiment...but stay on the sidelines until you're off probation.

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Old 06-12-2015, 07:46 PM
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They didn't vote to send it to memory rat. The YES voters voted to say the contract met the MEC's direction. The NO voters voted to say it did not. Memory rat is simply the next step in the process.

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How did the negotiators reach a TA if they didn't meet the MEC's direction?
Sounds like a lot of confusion there in ATL.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:41 AM
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Vote no on C2015 TA
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Essential View Post
How did the negotiators reach a TA if they didn't meet the MEC's direction?
Sounds like a lot of confusion there in ATL.
It's easy. The negotiators simply sign the TA. Period. Just like C2012.

NYC Capt rep put it in writing that the TA didn't meet the MEC's direction to the negotiators.

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Old 06-14-2015, 03:21 AM
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It's easy. The negotiators simply sign the TA. Period. Just like C2012.

NYC Capt rep put it in writing that the TA didn't meet the MEC's direction to the negotiators.

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Oh . . . so just lie about it. You are right that is easy.

I was told that the NYC CA rep left the meeting before the NC actually reached the TA. Maybe the confusion is more in NYC and less in ATL?
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:19 AM
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Maybe the confusion is the TA sucks.

What is so great about it? Please tell us, without talking about pay.

Go ahead.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:21 AM
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Let everyone know that in section 14 of the new TA. Besides the 15 days sick look back in 365 days. There is also the invasion of your privacy look back. This is retroactive day of signing. 24 days sick in 365 and 52 days sick in 3yr look back. Delta now will have access to all your medical and prescription and anything else records!!! Basically cart blanch to your private life. Vote NO!
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Old 06-14-2015, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Essential View Post
Oh . . . so just lie about it. You are right that is easy.

I was told that the NYC CA rep left the meeting before the NC actually reached the TA. Maybe the confusion is more in NYC and less in ATL?
If that's the level of debate skills available amongst you ALPAholics, you're in trouble.

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Old 06-14-2015, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
If that's the level of debate skills available amongst you ALPAholics, you're in trouble.

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I wasn’t looking for a debate. I was asking a question and relaying a fact. When I see BS, I will throw the BS flag.
When I was learning about debate the first rule was know the facts of the debate. Another rule was listen to the opposing argument, and when the response takes the form of a personal attack, you know that the debater has no basis in fact.
Ask your rep if the NYC CA rep was there when direction was given and when the TA was reported back to the MEC.
Bring some facts, Carl, and I will gladly stow the flag.
I might be a lurkaholic, and likely a chocaholic, but that’s the end of my personality profile dependencies.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SluggoC17 View Post
Can a NH still on probation send in a card, or is that considered verboten?
New hires can definitely send in a card and, if DPA gets the nod, will be able to vote on everything. You don't have to wait til you're off probation. The only thing they ask is that new hires don't run for office until they're off probation.

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