You didnt hear it because it isn't true. He's just starting a flame. Luckily those who post such lies are the minority of the pilots at the 3 groups.

ONE LIST....ONE AIRLINE. LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL.

Let's start by joining together to end this thread ourselves for the first time ever, before the moderator does! I ask you all to stop posting on this site .... The Arbitrator's decision is coming very soon PLEASE WAIT TIL THE DECISION IS OUT BEFORE POSTING AGAIN.

NOW who will not follow my advice AND BE THE FIRST TO POST? Forever to be disrespected (blackballed) by us all as the FLAME KING!

 

What??? The unions didn't converse and come to an agreement on what their proposals would be. It is the specific unions choice on what they present to the arbitrator. If F9 thought this was fair then they should have proposed it... If all you F9 guys wanted this then why aren't you guys all irate at FAPA for not presenting this idea???

I'll answer my own question. Because it's easier to blame the other guys and you F9 guys would never admit to any situation where FAPA should have done something differently. Screw it, from here on out I blame FAPA for not presenting this idea during SLI negotiations as I think this is the only fair scenario... FAPA failed me and all my 121 brothers for presenting such a garbage proposal when it was obvious what would have been fair. Especially since they are the union who obviously knows what's best for everyone in this whole cluster.

 

Can you at least admit that whipsaw/divide & conquer is a major chapter in RAH management's playbook? I know you guys are a smart & experienced group. I just hope your mentality towards management has changed from the Menke days. No matter what they say, they aren't your friend and have no interest in being one.

As far as IBT not undercutting FAPA, we could be compensated exactly the same and management would still employ techniques to keep us at war with each other.

 

That wasn't an argument, just letting you know where I'm coming from.

 

Yep. Nothing personal and no emotion. Even when I CAPITALIZE. Purely for entertainment purposes while along for the ride. Waiting to see what rises out of the ashes once this is finsihed and move on from there.

 

[QUOTE=Kaptain;950091]You didnt hear it because it isn't true. He's just starting a flame. Luckily those who post such lies are the minority of the pilots at the 3 groups.
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Its true Kappy. Look it up. Or better yet, ask your IBT leaders. they are the ones that filed, on their own without any consultation with any of the other parties involved I might add. Real team players indeed!

 

I can absolutely admit that. I understand everything you guys are preaching. Aside from liquidation, there is nothing worse in my opinion than being acquired by RAH (nothing personal!). Primarily because of the nightmare stories about BB that I've heard from RAH line pilots over the years. Hearing the news 1-1/2 years ago was like getting kicked in the balls. Bolo can attest to that because I probably spoke those words to him soon after. So you guys need not fear a love fest between BB and F9 pilots. We are not on their side at all. If RAH/F9 survive, there will come a day when things normalize and we all have to accept the cards we are dealt. But for now, just accept our angle on this. I'm sorry it doesn't mesh with yours.

Mulva's thinking he'll take Kaptain up on his offer and take a chill pill for awhile until the SLI comes out. Keep B*tchin though because I'll still be watching.

Have fun.

P.S. Anyone have a suggestion or preference: Astro Glide or K-Y? I'm thinking I should order a 55 gallon drum for delivery to the DEN and MKE crew rooms.

 

Time for a little cool off period. The thread will be closed for 24 hours, or so, until myself or another moderator reopens it.

Thanks for you patience and understanding,

Tony