TSA Issues: A Combined List
#11
Sorry, multi tasking - and not very well.
He was polite and followed all instructions, as far as interviewing, paperwork, but he did not do the scanner nor pat down. The TSA and another officer walked him away from the screening area and began talking - out of his range. He asked if he was free to go, and they said no - once in the security area, you must be screened. He walked anyway - subject to the 10K fine.
I thought the full story was on CNN, but a lot of the detail I read is not there. If I find the original link, I'll post it.
He was polite and followed all instructions, as far as interviewing, paperwork, but he did not do the scanner nor pat down. The TSA and another officer walked him away from the screening area and began talking - out of his range. He asked if he was free to go, and they said no - once in the security area, you must be screened. He walked anyway - subject to the 10K fine.
I thought the full story was on CNN, but a lot of the detail I read is not there. If I find the original link, I'll post it.
#12
Repeat after me: Touch my junk, and I'll sue. Priceless.
#13
The Israeli's may have the security/screening/profiling gig down pretty well, but they also have far less traffic/passenger volume to deal with.
When the TSA was first created, the hiring requirements to become a TSA 'officer' were much higher than they are now in terms of education, background, previous job experience, etc. Unfortunately, not even remotely enough people that met the qualifications applied for the job. However, the TSA's inability to properly staff the airports with educated and experienced 'officers' was largely due to the fact that the TSA was not offering a commensurate wage for the qualifications they were asking of people. (Surprised??) As a result, the job has become the government equivalent of being a Wendy's burger flipper, that it is today.
I'm not trying to over simplify things, but it is entirely possible that the TSA could have been an entirely different animal than what it is today, if they had only put down a little more cash. They (and we) are getting what they paid for.
I for one can't wait to go through the nude-o-scope with a sign stuck under my shirt that tells them, explicitly, how I feel about them.
When the TSA was first created, the hiring requirements to become a TSA 'officer' were much higher than they are now in terms of education, background, previous job experience, etc. Unfortunately, not even remotely enough people that met the qualifications applied for the job. However, the TSA's inability to properly staff the airports with educated and experienced 'officers' was largely due to the fact that the TSA was not offering a commensurate wage for the qualifications they were asking of people. (Surprised??) As a result, the job has become the government equivalent of being a Wendy's burger flipper, that it is today.
I'm not trying to over simplify things, but it is entirely possible that the TSA could have been an entirely different animal than what it is today, if they had only put down a little more cash. They (and we) are getting what they paid for.
I for one can't wait to go through the nude-o-scope with a sign stuck under my shirt that tells them, explicitly, how I feel about them.
#14
Actually, it was "touch my junk, and I'll have you arrested". The guy did have a good point - everything they're doing would be considered illegal, but they're the government, so it's allowed.
#15
All this 4th amendment stuff is good, until we lose an aircraft.
It's a tough call.
#16
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Just read an article on CNN about a pax who refused the X-Ray/AIT, and was of course given a pat down. His exact words to the TSA agent, was "touch my junk and I'll sue".
I'm all for CREWPASS for pilots for the obvious reasons.
All I've heard is complaints and violations of civil rights, but no solutions from the public.
What should be done about the flying public? If the bad guys put stuff in their shoes, undies or cavities, doesn't it make sense TSA has to check there?
What is the solution? Profiling?
I'm all for CREWPASS for pilots for the obvious reasons.
All I've heard is complaints and violations of civil rights, but no solutions from the public.
What should be done about the flying public? If the bad guys put stuff in their shoes, undies or cavities, doesn't it make sense TSA has to check there?
What is the solution? Profiling?
#17
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#18
Actually you do have a right to air travel. It is a contract between you and the air carrier. The government is inserting itself between the two and baring you from exercising your contractual rights if you don't willingly forfeit your 4th Amendment rights.
The real answer was to not let the government do this in the first place. The carriers were perfectly able to perform the security function before and they are now. Bush created the TSA to placate the dems in order to get the Patriot Act passed. His initial proposal was to contract it to private companies.
The real answer was to not let the government do this in the first place. The carriers were perfectly able to perform the security function before and they are now. Bush created the TSA to placate the dems in order to get the Patriot Act passed. His initial proposal was to contract it to private companies.
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