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Old 11-28-2010 | 01:39 PM
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Lodging is included only during indoc. After that youre all own your onesy.
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Old 11-28-2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fisherpilot
I'm assuming lodging is included during training. Is it not? I figure that you get a perdiem to help cover meals??
Hotel is included during indoc, which is 2 weeks. No per diem. Expect 2-5 weeks off before specific aircraft sims after which you are responsible for lodging/meals. Again, no per diem.
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Old 11-28-2010 | 03:30 PM
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Seriously? Delta makes its new hires pay for their hotels during sim training? I don't get this industry.
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Old 11-28-2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ashcroft
Seriously? Delta makes its new hires pay for their hotels during sim training? I don't get this industry.
They're not the only ones. I was NWA, & they paid for it all which is kind of funny because NWA was considered cheap yet they paid for hotels during initial training and had better IT. Go figure.
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Old 11-28-2010 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
They're not the only ones. I was NWA, & they paid for it all which is kind of funny because NWA was considered cheap yet they paid for hotels during initial training and had better IT. Go figure.
NWA also paid per diem for new hires in training. NWA paid about 80 hours/month while in training also even for new hires. I was taking home more money per month from NWA during training than I was flying the line my first year. The really nice thing was having no home study to do before training. They actually taught us at the training center. Imagine that.
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Old 11-28-2010 | 10:25 PM
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DAL pays you a salary until you checkout on your IOE. It is in effect office pay and is paid equally over two paychecks per month.

Health Care and travel bennies are day one.

As it was explained to me they do not pay for your hotel and do not give per diem since you are not checked out. Either way, they don't. Starting pay is the best or second best to FedEx. (Keep in mind CAL, UPS and AMR are in the upper 20's to low 30's) SWA, FDX and DAL start in the 50's.

It was painful, but I knew it was coming and survived it. It only goes up from there. Plan accordingly.

Most new hires will be on reserve and possibly for a lot longer than a year, even on the most junior jets. Right now we are seeing pockets of junior pilots holding lines on this or that jet, but as the AE's keep coming and keep leveling out the categories, many of us will migrate to a jet we hold the best line on. (Or the worst line we can live with) There are a few more huge bids that will take a lot the junior guys off the line holding potions on the big jets and leave them with the option of reserve or bidding down.

Either way we are about three years in to the age 65 (Dec 13th) and the retirements will start coming. FWIW, reserve needs some improving but if you can live in base it is a great gig that can give you a ton of time home with the family.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 04:40 AM
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"I'm assuming lodging is included during training. Is it not? I figure that you get a perdiem to help cover meals??"

Ass-U-Me.

No, it's on you.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 10:56 AM
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At Delta, can you pick up trips from other crewmembers on your days off to bump up your pay. Does it make a difference if your on reserve or a line holder? If so is there usually alot in giveaway? Thanks.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBPLT
At Delta, can you pick up trips from other crewmembers on your days off to bump up your pay. Does it make a difference if your on reserve or a line holder? If so is there usually alot in giveaway? Thanks.
Line holders can pick up open time on days off through a white slip. It is paid at 100% credit. If a line holder picks up open time through a green slip it is paid at 200%

Reserves can only pick up open time on days off through a green slip, & it is paid at 100%, but your day off is also paid back.

Without getting too detailed, open time will go to a white slip first. Green slips generally happen when there are no white slip requests in & there are no reserves available. It's one of the last resorts for scheduling to cover a trip.
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Old 11-29-2010 | 12:02 PM
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Are you guys capped at how much you can pick up.
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