forgot to bid

Having access to ATL is enough to call it a windfall.

80ktsClamp

1Seat 1Engine

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Spanky189

Are you 'for real'?

Everyone at SWA has flown a 'different' fleet before. No challenge there and pay isn't going UP with the addition of 717s.

Most SWA pilots have international experience and 'know-how', so minimal benefit there.

The only base AT adds is ATL. More basing choices??? ONE!

'Expanded business operations' have been happening. Have you not been watching?. Charleston and Greensboro this spring. Numerous cities over the last few years.

Yes, some additional NYC flying. New routes to 'podunk' airports and some Internatioal that SW could have easily done on their own. Huge pay increase for AT guys.

How is that a wind fall for SWA?

Nothing against the AT guys and gals, but for you to say it is a SW 'windfall' is not truthful.

Have a great day tho,
S

Swa717

How about this windfall. SWA is buying the nation's safest airline. Just think about, your safety record will improve with this aquisition

Here's an article from the Atlanta Business Chronicle. I love the Bias. Although AirTran is rated number 1, the headline reads "Delta fifth-safest U.S. Airline. AirTran just doesn't get any respect.

Delta fifth-safest U.S. airline
Atlanta Business Chronicle
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 4:28pm EST

Delta Air Lines Inc. was the fifth-safest airline in 2010, according to a new study released by USNews.com.

Atlanta-based Delta had 77 documented incidents out of approximately 1,994,725 flights, the report said.

The report said of Delta’s incidents: “On Sept. 27, the pilot had to shut down the right-hand engine on Flight 116 from Atlanta, Ga. to Stuttgart, Germany, leading to a landing in St. John's, Canada. Four days later, the same plane had to shut down the same engine again. A similar incident occurred on Flight 1921 on Dec. 30, with two passengers obtaining minor injuries during the evacuation.”

AirTran Airways, which hubs at Harstfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, was named the safest American airline with five documented incidents out of 255,500 flights, besting No. 2 Southwest Airlines, which recorded 23 documented incidents out of 1.13 million flights.

The airlines ranked according to safety:

AirTran
Southwest
US Airways
Continental
Delta
United Airlines
American Airlines
JetBlue
Click here for the Forbes report.

tsquare

Bad juju to badmouth another carriers' safety record...

Bones never lie - Witchdoctor

Swa717

Who is bad mouthing anyone's safety record? Just posting an article I found. By the way, that wasn't me making a comment about the author's bias remarks. I copied this from another forum.

I was simply saying they are getting the best safety record in the industry. This article proves Airtran has come along way in the last 15 years.

Dirtdiver

It's not the pilots flying through international airspace you need to worry about. That's the easy part. The screw ups come from behind the scenes, things being taken care of by mere mortals. I never knew how good I had it as a pilot until I worked the command post.

4th Level

Again,

ATL, Intl ops, second airframe etc are all things one airline brings to another and has little bearing on SLI.

SLI issues deal with what each pilot group brings to the table.

Look at it from an individual perspective;

As a line pilot, am I appreciably impacted by whether or not I fly to ATL or out over the water? (I'm not talking about revenues, additional cities etc, these are all company benefits).

Not really.

Now, ask yourself how you are directly impacted by things like;

Seniority?
Pay?
Retirement?
Benefits?

I'm not trying to throw down a "we have more to offer than you" line in the sand - but these are the items primarily focused on when negotiating any SLI.

Hugh Jarse

You're an idiot!