So at what point will they "flip the switch" and allow resumes and apps? If things really are moving there fast it has to be soon, as they need time to open the window, build up the applications, train the interviewees, block the sim time (if there is a sim ride in the interview), interview and offer class dates (With the obligatory two week notice to give to your current company).

Basically, they aren't going to wait until every furloughed guy/girl is back before they amp things up. Are they?

 

I'm commuting on RSV and the current AA RSV system is terrible. It's worse than Eagle's. Due to tight staffing, scheduling is stingy about giving long calls unless they think you'll exceed 7 short call RAP's when they have to pay you extra.

With exceptions of minimum monthy days off (11/12 depending on month) and not violating your 3/4 golden days, virtually every other guideline allows scheduling discretion to do as they please.

Virtually every RSV day will either be a trip or a short call RAP in domicile (dumpy crash pad in MIA or NYC if you don't plan to move within close driving range of either two) and sick time usage among RSV pilots us high due to burnout.

It's pretty ugly right now.

 

It's possible AA will only bring back a few hundred recalls and then stop for awhile, so their could be the gap you describe.

Hopefully not though.

 

According to VP Flight and the guy who runs recall classes - they will be bumping it up to 40/month indefinitely and expect new hire classes by spring of next year. Don't forget, we get to the end of the recall list by end of this year, then another 150 or so AE FTs, then new hires. Looks like they will not be stopping any time soon.

 

Ouch. What's min pay per day you're called out?

 

73 hour guarantee and 85 hour max. Depending on status, you may or may not break guarantee. Sched would like to fly you about 60 hours and have do 7 RAP's to keep you cheap.

Daily guarantee doesn't mean much.

 

Bring 'em on Brutha........

 

So when you're called out you don't get a min, ie 4hrs per day,?

 

One reserve day = 3:50. Once on a trip, you fall under E, F, and G time, which are the duty/trip/min day rigs.

 

BullXXXX! Please stop with your unproven sunshine predictions. The facts are as follows.

AMR has publically announced that they will ground 25 more S80's before the end of the year. AMR has not announced any replacements for those aircraft. The deliveries of 737's will end this year. AMR was previously grounding at least one S80 every time they recieved a new 737 (I've been delivering the 80's to Roswell). 777-300ER will not be available for a year and a half, minimum. Likewise the 787. There have been no announcements of new aircraft besides the six - 300ER's. APA, our pilot union, is at best sending out mixed messages. Multiple domicile chairmen are stating that AMR management has been lying again at the negotiating table to get us through the summer crunch. The negotiating team sent out a message stating they are disappointed in managements tactics at the table then a few days later at the direction of what many believe is a management friendly APA President, the negotiators send out a conflicting message stating they are re-energized at the table. AMR recalled furloughees recently because they were fearful of a mass exodus of senior pilots this summer due to falling market conditions. (This has partially come true, 42 retirements July 1, maybe a similar number Aug 1). AMR is losing market share in major markets and has announced no plans to stem the losses other than waiting for the other airlines labor contracts to catch up. That's it folks. Facts not some pipe dreams are what you should plan your future on.

I could just as easily state, "According to the VP Flight they will stop recalls this fall after the summer crunch is over to prepare for the announced grounding of the 25 S-80's. There will be no more recalls until several months prior to AMR recieving 777-300ER's and then only if AMR has a signed agreement with APA by that time (which looks doubtful)".

aa73, you can try to be smug, act like you have the inside story and puff up the hopes of others but you know only as much as I know. Yes I have friends on the inside too! Pilots are making future plans based on message boards like this so please try to paint an accurate picture based on facts not your dreams. When conditions change I will be the first to back up your posts but until then I'll present the ACTUAL conditions present at AA.