Thanks, unfortunately I had gotten where I wanted to go. It lasted 2 years before the axe man came...... But it still would be nice if hiring would ramp up at some of the majors for more than a few classes here and there.

One guy said 5500 apps for 148 spots...The percentages are just not in the average guys favor without some serious connections. Same with SWA. I would have gladly tried to get a 73 type but not for the few weeks of the window being open only to hire a 100 or so out of the 10000 resumes they received. It just does not make financial sense.


Botttom line is there are many many qualified applicants...And in a different time many of us would be easy shoe ins or would have been able to pick our major. It's just the post 9/11 drought that has made it incredibly difficult for some very qualified candidates.

 

. double post

 

Elvis90....I don't plan to cut and run. I plan to stay and fight for a better contract in 2012. If it is more of the same, I would vote with my feet then.

To answer your question about leaving for greener pastures: I have already made adjustments to make my life financially better. I run a couple of ventures on the side. Ventures with way less responsibilities but ventures which pays more than my DAL pilot job.

The point is: I should not have to do a second job to support my family while piloting for one of the world's largest airliners. I should not have to come to work tired after running my side-business. But that is the reality.

In my ideal world, I want to quit my side business and just worry about safely transporting passengers for Delta. It is a hard enough job.

 

I'm not saying people don't fail the interviews or training at the regionals. I'm just saying 7600 pilots in a 15 year period is not a big deal for the delta system. Delta will have no problem getting the 7600 pilots and if your worried about the regional level I don't think that will be a big deal. I thought the regionals at delta were shrinking anyways. I'm messing with you a little now but answer my other question. If delta truely cared why are there pilot working at the delta regionals that have failed to get hired at delta. What does that say that they were not good enough to fly delta passengers in delta colors on an actual delta plane but still good enough to fly those same passengers in delta colors in an rj. If they cared and they aren't good enough to fly delta passengers in delta planes they shouldn't be good enough to fly delta passengers at all.

 

I agree...I do think it shows you have enough initiative to do what it takes to maintain your standard of living. Some form of restoration is due the Delta pilot group that is still operating under a bankruptcy contract.

 

The press release says that the selected highschoolers would need to get a thousand CFI hours, then a thousand regional hours, then interview at one of the "sponsoring majors".

How much captain time does Delta think these "staffing saviors" will have?

 

Didn't mean to slight anybody. I think at least 5 of the companies I mentioned currently or recently operated turboprops.

 

This whole idea is a joke. First of all Delta has always had a skewed view of what a "hirable applicant" is/was. No if's, and's or but's. Now with this initiative, they are considering college grads with less than a B average, as long as the grades for aviation-related classes were a B or better. Seriously, 10 years ago, Delta wouldn't have even considered a guy with less than a B average. Secondly, after all is said and done, all Delta is willing to actually commit to is to "guarantee" the candidate the opportunity to interview, and that is only at a regional carrier (no disrespect intended toward regional guys).

So say a guy decides to pursue a career in aviation, he has to go to one of the approved schools, take some aviation-related courses, graduate with the above mentioned GPA, or better, then stay at that school to accumulate 1000 hours of IP time, before being "guaranteed" an interview. All the while, after graduation, earning probably minimum wage, again, just to be allowed an interview. With no guarantee of actually securing a job. Then, if he or she is lucky enough to actually be hired, and after logging the required "mainline" hours, they are again only "guaranteed" an interview at said "mainline" airline.

As well, the article says that "CAPT would mainly look to high-tier college aviation programmes as means of cultivating pilots. "Statistical data indicates that a quality college education from a top-tier university or college provides us with a much better pilot in terms of fewer training failures, overall performance and reliability," notes Kraby." .......Quality education? Less than a B average will provide a pilot, who over time, will have "fewer training failures, overall performance and reliability." Really?

All I can say is that it must have been a really lousy week for the author to have stopped sniffing glue, prior to writing that article.

 

what a joke, how many decades have we heard this? hasn't happened since the 60's and won't happen again

 

their fifth year fo's make more than our captains. they don't need movement