Delta Ponders Pilot Sources
04-21-2011 | 05:20 PM
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Exactly man. Enthusiasm...my a$$. Money talks.
I've been in this industry for 15 years. Flight instructor, 135 night freight, regional, major, narrowbody, widebody etc etc. What do I make at Delta after all these years? Minimum guarantee of 70 hrs times $110. After all the deductions and taxes, I make around $5500 per month. What a f'n joke.
I've been in this industry for 15 years. Flight instructor, 135 night freight, regional, major, narrowbody, widebody etc etc. What do I make at Delta after all these years? Minimum guarantee of 70 hrs times $110. After all the deductions and taxes, I make around $5500 per month. What a f'n joke.
Sobering info for an AD MIL guy.
04-21-2011 | 05:30 PM
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Freightguy & Airhoss, when do you plan on leaving your current carrier for greener pastures? Where do you plan on going? I agree it's not what it was in 2000, but new contracts are being negotiated.
I plan on becoming the new Kaang of Rock n Roll..
Thank ya, thank ya, very much!!
04-21-2011 | 07:00 PM
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Exactly man. Enthusiasm...my a$$. Money talks.
I've been in this industry for 15 years. Flight instructor, 135 night freight, regional, major, narrowbody, widebody etc etc. What do I make at Delta after all these years? Minimum guarantee of 70 hrs times $110. After all the deductions and taxes, I make around $5500 per month. What a f'n joke.
There are McDonalds managers making $50000+ per year. With deductions, taxes etc, they net $4000 per month. .
I've been in this industry for 15 years. Flight instructor, 135 night freight, regional, major, narrowbody, widebody etc etc. What do I make at Delta after all these years? Minimum guarantee of 70 hrs times $110. After all the deductions and taxes, I make around $5500 per month. What a f'n joke.
There are McDonalds managers making $50000+ per year. With deductions, taxes etc, they net $4000 per month. .
Any idea what the out of pocket expenses are for that store on "a decent street corner"?
04-21-2011 | 07:19 PM
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You're getting lost in the details and missing his point. Most airline pilots are capable of being successful at any number of things. (And at a higher level than a McDonald's manager or pizza store owner, I might add.) We chose this profession because we have a love for flying and because it was a lucrative career. Now that this is no longer the case, many will find it difficult if not impossible to justify this profession as a career. No matter how much we enjoy flying, it just no longer makes financial sense... especially considering the cost of admission. Most young people starting out with "a lot on the ball" and high expectations for their family's futures are simply going to choose something else.
04-21-2011 | 07:30 PM
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04-21-2011 | 08:01 PM
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You're getting lost in the details and missing his point. Most airline pilots are capable of being successful at any number of things. (And at a higher level than a McDonald's manager or pizza store owner, I might add.) We chose this profession because we have a love for flying and because it was a lucrative career. Now that this is no longer the case, many will find it difficult if not impossible to justify this profession as a career. No matter how much we enjoy flying, it just no longer makes financial sense... especially considering the cost of admission. Most young people starting out with "a lot on the ball" and high expectations for their family's futures are simply going to choose something else.
Actually, I am not getting lost in the details. I totally get the rest of your post. I have lived it, have the tshirts and the loans. If I could start over, knowing what I know now, it would be some serious decisions to make. I want restoration just as much as the next person. I was just calling out the disregard for actual facts in the statement on McDonalds managers and that if they make $50,000 a year, I guarantee they don't take home $4,000 a month.
04-22-2011 | 03:58 AM
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Interesting read from the beginning. Getting ready to retire from 20 yrs in MIL fighters and can only speak for my buds in the same boat: All are applying to FDX and SWA. Nobody wants to touch the others right now due to climate, pay, and uncertainty. Suppose things will change if the first 2 say no but the AA, UAL's, etc are not getting their "pick of the litter". Interesting to see how this translates when the current pilot pool dries up...
04-22-2011 | 05:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
their fifth year fo's make more than our captains. they don't need movement
Shack..........
Ditto......you don't need movement when they pay you a livable wage. But the pay raises are nice when you do move up.
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
their fifth year fo's make more than our captains. they don't need movement
Shack..........
Ditto......you don't need movement when they pay you a livable wage. But the pay raises are nice when you do move up.
04-22-2011 | 05:58 AM
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Actually, I am not getting lost in the details. I totally get the rest of your post. I have lived it, have the tshirts and the loans. If I could start over, knowing what I know now, it would be some serious decisions to make. I want restoration just as much as the next person. I was just calling out the disregard for actual facts in the statement on McDonalds managers and that if they make $50,000 a year, I guarantee they don't take home $4,000 a month.
My local Hardees manager made 84K last year. No degree 5.5 years at Hardees.
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