Boomer

Try walking it repeatedly during a 4-hour break.

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Trippin!

At least that's better than on a sit changing into your running clothes and running the tunnel under ATL from T to E and back and forth. Then taking a shower and going back out to the line. That's kind of a facepalm moment for the rest of the pilot group.

Bucking Bar

Interesting graphic from Boyd's data miner. He supposed fuel savings from adoption of a geared turbofan on several airlines. Note the fuel savings for Delta, especially when compared to Delta's competitors.

johnso29

Does that graph include gas bought for regionals? That's a serious fuel bill!!

forgot to bid

And to think we didn't have anyone managing fuel hedging until recently?

Bucking Bar

Credit C.B. on ALPA Board for this excellent article link:

http://www.aircraft-commerce.com/sam...g_2_sample.pdf

Bucking Bar

Boeing looks to exceed 737 Max operating promises

By LBlachly
Created 2011-08-31 16:06
By Geoffrey Thomas [1]

Boeing is promising customers for its new 737 Max series launched Tuesday up to a 7% advantage in operating costs over future competing aircraft as it ramps up the marketing of the third major redesign of the family (ATW Daily News, Aug. 31 [2]).
ATW understands that Boeing’s stated 2017 EIS for the Max is a "worst case” scenario and it fully expects to better it.
It is also understood from insiders that the baseline aircraft being offered to airlines will be improved significantly as a variety of technologies are proven.
In June, Boeing and American Airlines announced a partnership to bring an "evolutionary ecoDemonstrator Program" to reality in 2012 (ATW Daily News June 23 [3]).
An American 737-800 will be used to flight test and accelerate the market readiness of emerging technologies as well as being a test-bed for the FAA Continuous Lower Energy Emissions Noise (CLEEN) program.
Some of the technologies that will be flown in 2012 include adaptable trailing edge technology that reduces noise and emissions during all phases of flight including take-off, cruise and landing, and a variable area fan nozzle that reduces community noise and enables advanced engine efficiency technologies.
ATW also understands from a source in Dubai that Boeing is looking at raked wingtips to replace blended winglets for a longer-range model.
Boeing forecasts global demand for more than 23,000 aircraft in the 737's market segment over the next 20 years at a value of nearly $2 trillion.

forgot to bid

That's interesting stuff.

Makes me think, why not just stick with the 738 and 320? Seems to me the best sized and most flexible 737 is the 800 and best Airbus NB is the 320.

Grumble

They need a cash back credit card, since earning miles would be kind of redundant.

Wasatch Phantom

Bar,

With all due respect, the article is dated September 2005. It may be a worthwhile read for a basic perspective, but a lot has changed in six years.

The A-320 NEO was not a consideration, nor was a re-engined 737. (Do you realize design work on the 737 started in 1964. Talk about beating a dead horse...)