DAL to replace 100 757's with 739's
08-25-2011, 06:05 PM
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FYI, here is a complete list of all DAL aircraft built in 1988 or earlier and will likely be in DAL's fleet in 2013:
49535 1347 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N904DL Delta Air Lines 28-03-1987
49536 1348 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N905DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1987
49537 1355 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N906DL Delta Air Lines 24-04-1987
49538 1365 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N907DL Delta Air Lines 21-05-1987
49539 1366 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N908DL Delta Air Lines 24-05-1987
49540 1395 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N909DL Delta Air Lines 29-12-1987
49541 1416 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N910DL Delta Air Lines 19-12-1987
49542 1433 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N911DL Delta Air Lines 29-12-1987
49543 1434 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N912DL Delta Air Lines 30-12-1987
49544 1443 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N913DL Delta Air Lines 21-02-1988
49545 1444 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N914DL Delta Air Lines 25-02-1988
49546 1447 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N915DL Delta Air Lines 07-03-1988
49573 1469 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N917DL Delta Air Lines 25-05-1988
49583 1470 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N918DL Delta Air Lines 14-05-1988
49584 1471 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N919DL Delta Air Lines 19-05-1988
49591 1448 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N916DL Delta Air Lines 31-03-1988
49644 1473 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N920DL Delta Air Lines 06-06-1988
49645 1480 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N921DL Delta Air Lines 08-06-1988
49646 1481 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N922DL Delta Air Lines 15-06-1988
49705 1491 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N923DL Delta Air Lines 15-07-1988
49711 1492 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N924DL Delta Air Lines 27-07-1988
49712 1500 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N925DL Delta Air Lines 16-08-1988
49713 1523 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N926DL Delta Air Lines 28-10-1988
49714 1524 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N927DA Delta Air Lines 02-11-1988
49715 1530 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N928DL Delta Air Lines 10-11-1988
49716 1531 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N929DL Delta Air Lines 17-11-1988
49717 1532 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N930DL Delta Air Lines 18-11-1988
49718 1533 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N931DL Delta Air Lines 07-12-1988
--------------------------------------------------------------- 28 MD-88s
22809 39 Boeing 757-232 N602DL Delta Air Lines 05-11-1984
22810 41 Boeing 757-232 N603DL Delta Air Lines 07-11-1984
22811 43 Boeing 757-232 N604DL Delta Air Lines 03-12-1984
23125 44 Boeing 757-212 N751AT Delta Air Lines 22-11-1996
23126 45 Boeing 757-212 N750AT Delta Air Lines 19-09-1996
23127 47 Boeing 757-212 N757AT Delta Air Lines 26-09-1996
23128 48 Boeing 757-212 N752AT Delta Air Lines 15-10-1996
23190 53 Boeing 757-251 N501US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23191 55 Boeing 757-251 N502US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23192 59 Boeing 757-251 N503US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22815 64 Boeing 757-232 N608DA Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22816 65 Boeing 757-232 N609DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22817 66 Boeing 757-232 N610DL Delta Air Lines 28-09-2006
23196 68 Boeing 757-251 N507US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22819 73 Boeing 757-232 N612DL Delta Air Lines 18-10-1985
22820 84 Boeing 757-232 N613DL Delta Air Lines 24-01-1986
22821 85 Boeing 757-232 N614DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22822 87 Boeing 757-232 N615DL Delta Air Lines 28-02-1986
22823 91 Boeing 757-232 N616DL Delta Air Lines 02-04-1986
22907 92 Boeing 757-232 N617DL Delta Air Lines 21-05-1986
22908 95 Boeing 757-232 N618DL Delta Air Lines 25-04-1986
23207 108 Boeing 757-251 N519US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23209 110 Boeing 757-251 N521US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22913 118 Boeing 757-232 N623DL Delta Air Lines 08-01-1987
23616 119 Boeing 757-251 N522US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23617 121 Boeing 757-251 N523US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23619 124 Boeing 757-251 N525US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22915 126 Boeing 757-232 N625DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1987
22916 128 Boeing 757-232 N626DL Delta Air Lines 22-05-1987
22917 129 Boeing 757-232 N627DL Delta Air Lines 24-04-1987
22918 133 Boeing 757-232 N628DL Delta Air Lines 03-06-1987
22919 134 Boeing 757-232 N629DL Delta Air Lines 14-10-1987
22920 135 Boeing 757-232 N630DL Delta Air Lines 25-11-1987
23842 136 Boeing 757-251 N527US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23843 137 Boeing 757-251 N528US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23612 138 Boeing 757-232 N631DL Delta Air Lines 03-12-1987
23613 154 Boeing 757-232 N632DL Delta Air Lines 09-12-1987
23614 157 Boeing 757-232 N633DL Delta Air Lines 23-12-1987
23615 158 Boeing 757-232 N634DL Delta Air Lines 13-01-1988
23762 159 Boeing 757-232 N635DL Delta Air Lines 03-02-1988
23763 164 Boeing 757-232 N636DL Delta Air Lines 03-03-1988
23760 171 Boeing 757-232 N637DL Delta Air Lines 13-04-1988
23761 177 Boeing 757-232 N638DL Delta Air Lines 04-2006
23845 188 Boeing 757-251 N530US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23846 190 Boeing 757-251 N531US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24263 192 Boeing 757-251 N532US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24264 194 Boeing 757-251 N533US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24265 196 Boeing 757-251 N534US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23993 198 Boeing 757-232 N639DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23994 201 Boeing 757-232 N640DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23995 202 Boeing 757-232 N641DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23996 205 Boeing 757-232 N642DL Delta Air Lines 22-12-1988
------------------------------------------------------------------- 52 757-232/-251s
23204 104 Boeing 757-251 N516US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23205 105 Boeing 757-251 N517US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23206 107 Boeing 757-251 N518US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23208 109 Boeing 757-251 N520US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
22914 120 Boeing 757-232 N624DL Delta Air Lines 23-01-1987 Stored
23620 131 Boeing 757-251 N526US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23844 140 Boeing 757-251 N529US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
--------------------------------------------------------------------7 in temp storage
435 162 Boeing 767-332 N121DE Delta Air Lines 08-03-1987 Active
23438 189 Boeing 767-332 N124DE Delta Air Lines 09-11-1987 Active
24075 200 Boeing 767-332 N125DL Delta Air Lines 05-02-1988 Active
24076 201 Boeing 767-332 N126DL Delta Air Lines 04-03-1988 Active
24077 203 Boeing 767-332 N127DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1988 Active
24078 207 Boeing 767-332 N128DL Delta Air Lines 06-04-1988 Active
24079 209 Boeing 767-332 N129DL Delta Air Lines 16-05-1988 Active
24080 216 Boeing 767-332 N130DL Delta Air Lines 23-05-1988 Active
--------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 767-332s
49535 1347 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N904DL Delta Air Lines 28-03-1987
49536 1348 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N905DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1987
49537 1355 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N906DL Delta Air Lines 24-04-1987
49538 1365 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N907DL Delta Air Lines 21-05-1987
49539 1366 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N908DL Delta Air Lines 24-05-1987
49540 1395 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N909DL Delta Air Lines 29-12-1987
49541 1416 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N910DL Delta Air Lines 19-12-1987
49542 1433 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N911DL Delta Air Lines 29-12-1987
49543 1434 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N912DL Delta Air Lines 30-12-1987
49544 1443 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N913DL Delta Air Lines 21-02-1988
49545 1444 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N914DL Delta Air Lines 25-02-1988
49546 1447 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N915DL Delta Air Lines 07-03-1988
49573 1469 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N917DL Delta Air Lines 25-05-1988
49583 1470 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N918DL Delta Air Lines 14-05-1988
49584 1471 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N919DL Delta Air Lines 19-05-1988
49591 1448 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N916DL Delta Air Lines 31-03-1988
49644 1473 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N920DL Delta Air Lines 06-06-1988
49645 1480 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N921DL Delta Air Lines 08-06-1988
49646 1481 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N922DL Delta Air Lines 15-06-1988
49705 1491 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N923DL Delta Air Lines 15-07-1988
49711 1492 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N924DL Delta Air Lines 27-07-1988
49712 1500 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N925DL Delta Air Lines 16-08-1988
49713 1523 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N926DL Delta Air Lines 28-10-1988
49714 1524 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N927DA Delta Air Lines 02-11-1988
49715 1530 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N928DL Delta Air Lines 10-11-1988
49716 1531 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N929DL Delta Air Lines 17-11-1988
49717 1532 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N930DL Delta Air Lines 18-11-1988
49718 1533 McDonnell Douglas MD-88 N931DL Delta Air Lines 07-12-1988
--------------------------------------------------------------- 28 MD-88s
22809 39 Boeing 757-232 N602DL Delta Air Lines 05-11-1984
22810 41 Boeing 757-232 N603DL Delta Air Lines 07-11-1984
22811 43 Boeing 757-232 N604DL Delta Air Lines 03-12-1984
23125 44 Boeing 757-212 N751AT Delta Air Lines 22-11-1996
23126 45 Boeing 757-212 N750AT Delta Air Lines 19-09-1996
23127 47 Boeing 757-212 N757AT Delta Air Lines 26-09-1996
23128 48 Boeing 757-212 N752AT Delta Air Lines 15-10-1996
23190 53 Boeing 757-251 N501US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23191 55 Boeing 757-251 N502US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23192 59 Boeing 757-251 N503US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22815 64 Boeing 757-232 N608DA Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22816 65 Boeing 757-232 N609DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22817 66 Boeing 757-232 N610DL Delta Air Lines 28-09-2006
23196 68 Boeing 757-251 N507US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22819 73 Boeing 757-232 N612DL Delta Air Lines 18-10-1985
22820 84 Boeing 757-232 N613DL Delta Air Lines 24-01-1986
22821 85 Boeing 757-232 N614DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
22822 87 Boeing 757-232 N615DL Delta Air Lines 28-02-1986
22823 91 Boeing 757-232 N616DL Delta Air Lines 02-04-1986
22907 92 Boeing 757-232 N617DL Delta Air Lines 21-05-1986
22908 95 Boeing 757-232 N618DL Delta Air Lines 25-04-1986
23207 108 Boeing 757-251 N519US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23209 110 Boeing 757-251 N521US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22913 118 Boeing 757-232 N623DL Delta Air Lines 08-01-1987
23616 119 Boeing 757-251 N522US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23617 121 Boeing 757-251 N523US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23619 124 Boeing 757-251 N525US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
22915 126 Boeing 757-232 N625DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1987
22916 128 Boeing 757-232 N626DL Delta Air Lines 22-05-1987
22917 129 Boeing 757-232 N627DL Delta Air Lines 24-04-1987
22918 133 Boeing 757-232 N628DL Delta Air Lines 03-06-1987
22919 134 Boeing 757-232 N629DL Delta Air Lines 14-10-1987
22920 135 Boeing 757-232 N630DL Delta Air Lines 25-11-1987
23842 136 Boeing 757-251 N527US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23843 137 Boeing 757-251 N528US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23612 138 Boeing 757-232 N631DL Delta Air Lines 03-12-1987
23613 154 Boeing 757-232 N632DL Delta Air Lines 09-12-1987
23614 157 Boeing 757-232 N633DL Delta Air Lines 23-12-1987
23615 158 Boeing 757-232 N634DL Delta Air Lines 13-01-1988
23762 159 Boeing 757-232 N635DL Delta Air Lines 03-02-1988
23763 164 Boeing 757-232 N636DL Delta Air Lines 03-03-1988
23760 171 Boeing 757-232 N637DL Delta Air Lines 13-04-1988
23761 177 Boeing 757-232 N638DL Delta Air Lines 04-2006
23845 188 Boeing 757-251 N530US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23846 190 Boeing 757-251 N531US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24263 192 Boeing 757-251 N532US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24264 194 Boeing 757-251 N533US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
24265 196 Boeing 757-251 N534US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008
23993 198 Boeing 757-232 N639DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23994 201 Boeing 757-232 N640DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23995 202 Boeing 757-232 N641DL Delta Air Lines 01-05-2006
23996 205 Boeing 757-232 N642DL Delta Air Lines 22-12-1988
------------------------------------------------------------------- 52 757-232/-251s
23204 104 Boeing 757-251 N516US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23205 105 Boeing 757-251 N517US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23206 107 Boeing 757-251 N518US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23208 109 Boeing 757-251 N520US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
22914 120 Boeing 757-232 N624DL Delta Air Lines 23-01-1987 Stored
23620 131 Boeing 757-251 N526US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
23844 140 Boeing 757-251 N529US Delta Air Lines 29-10-2008 Stored
--------------------------------------------------------------------7 in temp storage
435 162 Boeing 767-332 N121DE Delta Air Lines 08-03-1987 Active
23438 189 Boeing 767-332 N124DE Delta Air Lines 09-11-1987 Active
24075 200 Boeing 767-332 N125DL Delta Air Lines 05-02-1988 Active
24076 201 Boeing 767-332 N126DL Delta Air Lines 04-03-1988 Active
24077 203 Boeing 767-332 N127DL Delta Air Lines 01-04-1988 Active
24078 207 Boeing 767-332 N128DL Delta Air Lines 06-04-1988 Active
24079 209 Boeing 767-332 N129DL Delta Air Lines 16-05-1988 Active
24080 216 Boeing 767-332 N130DL Delta Air Lines 23-05-1988 Active
--------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 767-332s
08-25-2011, 09:41 PM
#163
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Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Convair type room?
How about we just bring back the Convair? How kick
would that be? I'll bid that in a heart beat.
And to be fair and balanced...
^^^ picture is from MKE in... wait for it... wait for it... 19......... 88. Awesomeness.
How about we just bring back the Convair? How kick
would that be? I'll bid that in a heart beat. And to be fair and balanced...
^^^ picture is from MKE in... wait for it... wait for it... 19......... 88. Awesomeness.
08-26-2011, 05:40 AM
#164
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Actually, this picture^^^^^^^should be a wake-up call. Hypothetically, what if the airframe manufacturers fabricate a turbo prop aircraft that:
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
08-26-2011, 05:45 AM
#165
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Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Originally Posted by chuck416
Actually, this picture^^^^^^^should be a wake-up call. Hypothetically, what if the airframe manufacturers fabricate a turbo prop aircraft that:
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
Your point is valid, which is why our current Sec 1 has seat & weight limits for turboprop aircraft. Nothing over 70 seats or 70,000 lbs. That needs to come down IMO.
08-26-2011, 06:17 AM
#166
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Posts: 5,213
Originally Posted by chuck416
Actually, this picture^^^^^^^should be a wake-up call. Hypothetically, what if the airframe manufacturers fabricate a turbo prop aircraft that:
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
...
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
...
Q400 has a max of 360 ktas and a pratical cruise speed around 325 ktas.
Today, no pie in the sky tomorrow plan.
That's the plane the legacy pilots need to guard against.
08-26-2011, 09:41 AM
#167
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Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by chuck416
Actually, this picture^^^^^^^should be a wake-up call. Hypothetically, what if the airframe manufacturers fabricate a turbo prop aircraft that:
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
It can carry everybody and all of their stuff plus cargo and maybe it's own air cart and tug?
With JATO rockets it could make for an awesome MDW and SNA aircraft or with flares it could be a crowd favorite on July 4th, NASCAR races and or your family picnic.
08-26-2011, 02:12 PM
#168
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Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
viable mainline turboprop?
It can carry everybody and all of their stuff plus cargo and maybe it's own air cart and tug?
With JATO rockets it could make for an awesome MDW and SNA aircraft or with flares it could be a crowd favorite on July 4th, NASCAR races and or your family picnic.
It can carry everybody and all of their stuff plus cargo and maybe it's own air cart and tug?
With JATO rockets it could make for an awesome MDW and SNA aircraft or with flares it could be a crowd favorite on July 4th, NASCAR races and or your family picnic.
08-26-2011, 04:14 PM
#170
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Actually, this picture^^^^^^^should be a wake-up call. Hypothetically, what if the airframe manufacturers fabricate a turbo prop aircraft that:
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
>is very passenger-friendly
>comfortable to boot
>economical for Mgmt to operate on a seat/mile basis
>has 400ktas performance
Where, pray tell, does that leave ALL narrow-body pilots on DAL seniority list? Pretty much without a job, as there are NO LIMITATIONS as to how many of these (hypothetical) aircraft our company may acquire and operate. Does anyone else not see this as a potential threat that could be thoroughly exploited???
I'm just sayin'.....
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