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Old 08-25-2011, 06:16 AM
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It's good to know the 739 can do any domestic route in the system. I'd thought MDW ops or LGA-MSP would've been difficult on runway performance.

Too bad it can't do LAX-SEA, I mean it can, it just won't.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:19 AM
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I'm surprised to see the A320 on the list of aircraft to be replaced...I assume it's the really old ones. The engines are the CFM56-5 on the A320, and according to Wikipedia, the CFM56-7B is only 1% more fuel
Many of our older 320's have -1's, & there is a noticeable difference in performance IMO.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:30 AM
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Exactly! The -900ER is a piece of work all right. They say it can fly any domestic route? Can you imagine HNL in this - pull the 76 and send these to transcons and HNL! Yikes, I would hate to be in front flying or in back crying

Note these are capacity neutral, no growth.......
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:36 AM
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Exactly! The -900ER is a piece of work all right. They say it can fly any domestic route? Can you imagine HNL in this - pull the 76 and send these to transcons and HNL! Yikes, I would hate to be in front flying or in back crying

Note these are capacity neutral, no growth.......
Actually they never said the orders were capacity neutral. They said that they could replace 'some' of the older 757/767's and 320's. I think the delivery schedule gives them more flexibility with the capacity. If things turn around they can delay the retirement of some of those planes, or if they need to maintain capacity they can do a 1 for 1. JMO.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Many of our older 320's have -1's, & there is a noticeable difference in performance IMO.
Ahhh...then that would make sense.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:41 AM
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Um, read it again......

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ATLANTA, Aug. 25, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines today announced plans to purchase 100 Boeing 737-900ER aircraft for delivery between 2013 and 2018 as it retires older mainline jets and upgrades its fleet.

To view the multimedia assets associated with this release, please click: Delta Announces Order for 100 Boeing 737-900ER Aircraft

The order will enable Delta to add 100 fuel-efficient, state-of-the-art 180-seat aircraft to its fleet, replacing on a capacity-neutral basis older technology aircraft that will be retired from the fleet. *The new aircraft will improve the company's profitability while providing customers with an industry-leading on-board experience. *With a range of 3,200 nautical miles, the Boeing 737-900ER can operate on any domestic route offered by Delta. *

"A key component of Delta's strategy is making prudent investments for the future while maintaining our financial and capacity discipline," said Richard Anderson, Delta's chief executive officer. "With this next-generation Boeing aircraft, we can give our customers a superior in-flight experience while at the same time improving our shareholder returns.

"I want to commend all the manufacturers who participated in this process. *Their innovation in developing fleet solutions for the future resulted in several very competitive proposals," he said.

Financially Sound Investment

Delta will begin taking deliveries of the aircraft in the second half of 2013, with 12 aircraft in 2013, 19 aircraft per year in 2014 through 2017, and the remaining 12 aircraft in 2018. Each aircraft has committed long-term financing.

The size and timing of the order will allow Delta to maintain its annual capital expenditure run rate between $1.2 billion and $1.4 billion over the next three years and will not impact the company's $1.2 billion of capital expenditures projected for 2011. *Capital discipline is key to the company achieving its $10 billion adjusted net debt target by 2013.


As a result of maintenance efficiencies and a 15 to 20 percent improvement in fuel consumption per seat, the Boeing 737-900ER will have lower unit costs than the older technology Boeing 757 and 767 and Airbus A320 aircraft that it will replace. *The aircraft will be equipped with CFM56-7B engines produced by CFM International, a joint venture of General Electric Co. of the U.S. and Snecma of France.

"With significant savings from increased fuel efficiency and lower maintenance costs, these aircraft will be cash flow positive and earnings accretive from the first year of operation," Anderson said.

Enhanced Customer Experience

Delta is more than halfway through a $2 billion, three-year investment to enhance the customer experience as a means of generating a unit revenue premium to the industry. *The investments include improvements to Delta's fleet, facilities and technology.

The 737-900ER will be Delta's first aircraft to feature Boeing's new "Sky Interior," which offers expanded carry-on baggage space, a roomier, more airy cabin and an LED lighting system that provides different color schemes, such as a soft blue sky and a relaxing pallet of sunset colors.

Delta recently completed the installation of full flat-bed seats in the BusinessElite cabin of all Boeing 777 and 767-400ER aircraft, and began installing full flat-bed seats in its 767-300ER aircraft this month. To date, more than 25 percent of Delta's widebody international fleet has received the upgrade and the airline's entire widebody international fleet of more than 140 aircraft will be flying with full flat-bed seats in BusinessElite by the end of 2013.

This summer, Delta began offering its new Economy Comfort class on more than 160 Boeing 747, 757, 767, 777 and Airbus A330 aircraft. Located in the first few rows of the economy cabin, Economy Comfort features up to four additional inches of legroom, 50 percent more recline than Delta's standard international economy class seats, and early boarding.

At the same time, the company has been investing in enhancing its domestic fleet, with in-flight WiFi on all two-class domestic aircraft, interior upgrades and the installation of additional First Class seating. Delta also will offer Wi-Fi on its entire dual-class regional fleet of 228 aircraft by the end of 2011.

Delta's ongoing investment to enhance the customer experience also includes work underway on its new Terminal 4 at New York-JFK, opening in 2013, and the new Maynard H. Jackson Jr. International Terminal in Atlanta, opening in 2012. Pending final approval of an agreement between Delta and US Airways to transfer takeoff and landing rights at New York's LaGuardia and Washington D.C.'s Reagan National airports, Delta also will spend $100 million to expand, renovate and consolidate terminals C and D at LaGuardia over the next two years.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:45 AM
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Um, read it again......
Yes they will say that, as Wall St is extremely picky about capacity discipline right now. But it doesn't mean it will be a straight 1 for 1. Delta has been very disciplined with capacity restraint lately.
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Yes they will say that, as Wall St is extremely picky about capacity discipline right now. But it doesn't mean it will be a straight 1 for 1. Delta has been very disciplined with capacity restraint lately.
We will see I guess. But unless there are a lot of 320's in the replacements then it will be hard to see how this adds seats at least. If you pull the 76 into the mix, it is not a good thing for the passenger comfort or the pilots paycheck.....
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We will see I guess. But unless there are a lot of 320's in the replacements then it will be hard to see how this adds seats at least. If you pull the 76 into the mix, it is not a good thing for the passenger comfort or the pilots paycheck.....
Stop ruining my attempt at a positive spin! I'm trying to be optimistic.
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Originally Posted by FastDEW View Post
Um, read it again......
You do realize capacity neutral when replacing larger equipment means more airframes ergo more pilots. Of course they are going to say capacity neutral, it's what wall street wants to hear but were talking 2-7 years from now who knows what capacity will be needed and this will give us flexibility.
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