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Old 10-31-2011 | 09:49 AM
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Also, at what point as a Captain do you say, "Enough is enough, I'm getting these people off this airplane."
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Old 10-31-2011 | 10:24 AM
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Seriously, what monkey writes these stupid articles? "Couldn't land because the glide slope because of weather..." Glide slope equipment?

I hate reporters who have no idea what they are talking about and don't bother to do any research. Idiots.
Soon to be released by same author - It was discovered that the light pilots use to lock on to for landing had a clapper device attached. A local snow plow backfired twice, causing the glideslope light to shut down..."
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Old 10-31-2011 | 10:30 AM
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Also, at what point as a Captain do you say, "Enough is enough, I'm getting these people off this airplane."
Blow the slides, walk to the door and start knocking.

"Lucy I'm home!"

Seriously though why the hell not?
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Old 10-31-2011 | 10:32 AM
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No one seems to be placing any blame on Newark... .

We all should take a lesson from this and be very careful what we say on the radio.
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Old 10-31-2011 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
I think CA Thompson is gonna hear it from the boys upstairs!
If the "boys upstairs" are inferred to as MGT, I'm sure they're going to get an ear-full from the FAA.

With that I'm certain.

Originally Posted by CaptainCarl
Also, at what point as a Captain do you say, "Enough is enough, I'm getting these people off this airplane."
The moment his declares an emergency on the radio, or decides to pick up his cell phone and dial 911.....I'm sure either would have put the wheels in motion to ending this 7 hour debacle. Especially with a 'potential' medical condition onboard if you get my drift.

After listening to the selected excerpts from the audio, I would safely say his "W-T-*" metered was well beyond pegged.
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Old 10-31-2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Blow the slides, walk to the door and start knocking.
Don't forget to grab two beers!
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Old 10-31-2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
Blow the slides, walk to the door and start knocking.

"Lucy I'm home!"

Seriously though why the hell not?
That SOUNDS really good, and part of all us pilots do think this way. However, (there's almost always a 'however'), if ANYBODY gets hurt during the 'slide', they're gonna' hang the captain out to dry. If it goes perfectly, well, it ain't like they're gonna call him "son-of-Sully" or anything like that...
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Old 10-31-2011 | 12:28 PM
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Just declare a medical emergency and have paramedics sent. Done.
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Old 10-31-2011 | 01:00 PM
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What do you guys think of this idea? Some FBO's have an air-stairs that they charge $75 per hour for/ if you do not buy fuel. (We request it occasionally for our cargo Boeing 727 when we have to much cargo on-board preventing access to our aft-air stairs.) In a screwed up situation like Jet Blue's, should one try calling the local FBO for an air-stairs? Or possibly have the First Officer exit on an escape rope, find someone on the commercial ramp with the air-stairs, and bribe him to come over to your aircraft? (FYI-not a passenger pilot so do not beat me up too bad).
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Old 10-31-2011 | 02:14 PM
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Default There is NO Excuses....

Fine Them... The law is in place to prevent this crap from happening.....

The Capt. is just as much at fault...No matter how stupid the company is when safety is in question the Captain needs to act. He should have gone over to Signature or whatever FBO is on the field and off loaded the plane using their air stairs..

If needed blow the slide that's what it is for...

7+ hours is Ridiculous use some common sense...
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