Scope Proposal at American
11-15-2011, 05:57 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by aa73
I wouldn't say "most" would vote for this... there is a minority here that is convinced the sky is falling... but the majority will never vote for this.
Like I said above, 25% up front and 7% per year is a good start for me to consider voting Yes. Anything less is concessionary and an insult.
Like I said above, 25% up front and 7% per year is a good start for me to consider voting Yes. Anything less is concessionary and an insult.
Again sorry if this seems like a stupid question.
11-15-2011, 05:59 AM
#12
Sho me da money!
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This is a very bad omen today. I will walk the line with any AA group in support and even contribute to any fund to help support AA pilots while this is defeated. ALK would benefit and that is good for them short term but at the expense of too many variables in control of management that WILL come back to bite ALK pilot group in the end.
11-15-2011, 06:04 AM
#13
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As an RJ driver, I'd rather see the B scale come back rather than the continuation of regional airline growth. Bring the jet back on property. As for the codeshare agreements, That's just more outsourcing and job loss.
11-15-2011, 06:05 AM
#14
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http://aanegotiations.com/documents/...eSummaries.pdf
The negotiations are getting interesting, APA is obviously at a point where they will have to decide to either keep a strong scope clause (the above proposal) with a minimal pay increase, or sell out scope (E175s at regional carriers) in exchange for a larger pay raise.
The negotiations are getting interesting, APA is obviously at a point where they will have to decide to either keep a strong scope clause (the above proposal) with a minimal pay increase, or sell out scope (E175s at regional carriers) in exchange for a larger pay raise.
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11-15-2011, 06:13 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by Zymurgist
As an RJ driver, I'd rather see the B scale come back rather than the continuation of regional airline growth. Bring the jet back on property. As for the codeshare agreements, That's just more outsourcing and job loss.
11-15-2011, 06:27 AM
#17
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So the pay raise from AMR is 4%, 3, 2 and 2 or 5, 4, 2 and 3?
What's inflation?
What's inflation?
“As pilots look at the components of the proposal, there may be some who describe it as concessionary,” American said on its website. “The reality is that in virtually every area of the proposal, we have offered industry-leading terms.”
To help resolve differences, American offered two options on pivotal points such as compensation, productivity, pension and benefits.
Under one of American’s proposed pay plans, pilots would get a 4 percent average raise on the date the contract is signed, followed by a 3 percent boost after 15 months, and increases of 2 percent after 30 months and again after 45 months.
The second option offers a 5 percent average increase at signing, followed by a 4 percent jump after 12 months, a 2 percent increase after 24 months and 3 percent after 36 months.
Pilots had sought a 10 percent signing bonus, followed by 7 percent raises in each of the next three years.
To help resolve differences, American offered two options on pivotal points such as compensation, productivity, pension and benefits.
Under one of American’s proposed pay plans, pilots would get a 4 percent average raise on the date the contract is signed, followed by a 3 percent boost after 15 months, and increases of 2 percent after 30 months and again after 45 months.
The second option offers a 5 percent average increase at signing, followed by a 4 percent jump after 12 months, a 2 percent increase after 24 months and 3 percent after 36 months.
Pilots had sought a 10 percent signing bonus, followed by 7 percent raises in each of the next three years.
11-15-2011, 06:41 AM
#19
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Sign me up, maybe my ALPA dues could even be used for something to further the industry instead of my outstanding display of journalism I get every month. I'd vote for that.
Originally Posted by FIIGMO
This is a very bad omen today. I will walk the line with any AA group in support and even contribute to any fund to help support AA pilots while this is defeated. ALK would benefit and that is good for them short term but at the expense of too many variables in control of management that WILL come back to bite ALK pilot group in the end.
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