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Old 12-17-2011 | 04:21 AM
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Delta customers love the RJs, especially on long legs. It's the year of the customers you know. Next year is the year of the CEO. It goes in cycles.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman

It seems like anytime Delta adds a new route it is always rj service.
Well, I am not for scope busting, but I can see why new routes start with smaller planes...no one bites...less loss. Lots of bites, bigger plane.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 04:47 AM
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Initially two of these flights to DFW were to be on MD-90's. With the downturn they probably pulled it to see how the market does. If you also recall the MD-90's are taking about twice as long to get retrofitted after they arrive.

Also, the 175 flies to places like YUL from MSP and ATL-GDL at times.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 06:26 AM
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to long why? the leg room is no different than the 757 or 737.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by block30
Well, I am not for scope busting, but I can see why new routes start with smaller planes...no one bites...less loss. Lots of bites, bigger plane.
That's the line management has been using since the birth of the RJ. We'll just use it to break into a route that we will then develop for mainline. It's total and utter B.S.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of one route of United that we developed by the RJ and then taken over by mainline.

I can think of WAYYYYY more than 100 that went mainline to the RJ.

In other words... and I know this will shock many.... management LIES
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Old 12-17-2011 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
That's the line management has been using since the birth of the RJ. We'll just use it to break into a route that we will then develop for mainline. It's total and utter B.S.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of one route of United that we developed by the RJ and then taken over by mainline.

I can think of WAYYYYY more than 100 that went mainline to the RJ.

In other words... and I know this will shock many.... management LIES
Yup, look at all the mainline flying that went to the RJ at DAL.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
It seems like anytime Delta adds a new route it is always rj service.
So what?

It makes sense.... You don't see DAL starting a JFK-CPH on a 777 do you?
It started with a 757 (RJ of the Atlantic).

DAL pilots should be happy that the company isn't over-committing resources in an effort that would end up causing a loss and losing money!

DAL pilots should be sad that they (and the other majors) have not forced the issue to return the block hours for DAL pilots to fly.

It's NOT the business of a pilot union to determine the aircraft a company uses on a route, it's the business of a pilot union to make sure that the aircraft is operated by it's members, under the best working conditions possible.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
So what?

It makes sense.... You don't see DAL starting a JFK-CPH on a 777 do you?
It started with a 757 (RJ of the Atlantic).

DAL pilots should be happy that the company isn't over-committing resources in an effort that would end up causing a loss and losing money!

DAL pilots should be sad that they (and the other majors) have not forced the issue to return the block hours for DAL pilots to fly.

It's NOT the business of a pilot union to determine the aircraft a company uses on a route, it's the business of a pilot union to make sure that the aircraft is operated by it's members, under the best working conditions possible.
If a high CASM, high fuel per pax plane is the right one for the mission, fine. We need to be the one that fly them.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 09:14 AM
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Even if it looses money, if I were in charge of the universe I would fly MD-80s/737's on the route to establish brand presence and customer head counts then maybe move to RJ's in 12 months once the routes were established.

I would make a huge deal of the new routes in the local DFW and NYC area papers and community business events.

Day-1, I don't know if I would put a RJ on the "welcome to our new DFW-LGA route"

AA would routinely fly money-looser routes just to establish brand presence and kill weaker carriers. They did this with SWA back in the early days of SWA.

The tables are turned now.
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Old 12-17-2011 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77

AA would routinely fly money-looser routes just to establish brand presence and kill weaker carriers. They did this with SWA back in the early days of SWA.

The tables are turned now.
And that strategy worked GREAT! Look at 'em now!
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