FLY6584

I enjoyed reading this thread. Not that I enjoyed reading about people getting turned down. Just crazy to see how much things have changed in just over 4 years. Makes you wonder what the next 4 or even 14 years has in store for all of us.

Best of luck to everyone applying and reapplying. I have had two great buddies get turned down this year that I wrote recommendations for and I'm left scratching my head as to why we didn't pick them up. Our loss and their gain when a Legacy eventually picks them up.

Sliceback

AA OTS is 75-85% military. With the flows it drops to about 30-35%, which is line with DL and UA's data of 25-35% military.

Nevjets

But isn't a 50/50 split disproportionate when you look at the amount if civilians versus military pilots?

CheapTrick

Right now DAL is at about 70% military. (50% straight military & 20% bi). Just saw a brief. Supposedly still hiring in the Tier 1 stack but DAL is seeing some no left seat hires & non current military hires (just a few).

Hrkdrivr

Funny how things turn out. I didn't remember starting this thread...

Later in 2012 I tested with a group of guys at FedEx. We all passed. They said they'd call us back in the Spring of 2013 to finish the interview. Well, they retired the 727s and drew down their pilot force a bit. Crickets.

They (FedEx) called in the Spring all right...of 2014...one week before I was done with probation at Delta. By this time I knew I was happy at DAL and had a fairly easy commute so I politely declined to finish the interview. That was the hardest "no" ever. I did a lot of international and backside of the clock flying in the AF and didn't want to go back to it. But the FedEx contract...sigh.

Now I'm 38% in my seat, I can pick some trips and hold weekends and holidays, and the 3 or 4 dozen junior captains at DAL are junior to me. Crazy times.

Oh, I kept my stuff current on the SWA app until I got to DAL in 2014, but I never heard from them again.

You SWA guys seem like you're enjoying yourselves and I thought it would be a cool place to work, but life doesn't always turns out like you planned.

Sliceback

AA in 2016 (prior to October?) - 28% military

DL from 2014 thru 11/2015 - 35% military

UA - 2014 - 47% military.
2015 - 37% military


Relative to the overall applicant pool military is getting a higher percentage of the slots.

IMO it's hard to call it an anti civilian bias when 63-72% of the new hires are civilians.

stanthecaddy

These numbers all over the map. anywhere from 70% to 30% military. Fwiw my buddy said his new hire class at Yonited was 70 percent military. Supposedly the airline gets a tax break for hiring vets so it makes sense from a financial perspective.

Sliceback

AA had a class that was 100% military fighter guys. But on larger scale the average was 27% military.

stanthecaddy

AA is probably scewed bc most of their classes have been flows which are largely civilian. Next year it should be more OTS with the flows so we'll see what those numbers come out to be.

stanthecaddy

AA is probably scewed bc most of their classes have been flows which are largely civilian. Next year it should be more OTS with the flows so we'll see what those numbers come out to be.