Any chance to Drop ALPA and start a new Union?
10-17-2006, 07:37 AM
#11
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Put out a ballot to see if the pilot group would like to set up their own in-house association which would be recognized by the Department of Labor. More money in the short term as far as expenses go, but better internal control in the long run. No outside representatives with other interests to influence your group.
10-17-2006, 07:39 AM
#12
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Every ALPA-represented pilot group that is currently operating under a concessionary CBA is doing so under a CBA that was ratified by the pilot group. We'll see in the coming week or two what happens with Mesaba...
If you want to 'blame' ALPA, blame your MEC, your Local, your fellow pilots and yourself. If you want things to change in Herndon, *****ing on a message board won't do it. You've got to invest the time to attend LEC meetings, make a motion, get your group motivated and push for reform.
Seems like everybody wants things to change but nobody is willing to make the financial, time, or personal investment to make it so...
If you want to 'blame' ALPA, blame your MEC, your Local, your fellow pilots and yourself. If you want things to change in Herndon, *****ing on a message board won't do it. You've got to invest the time to attend LEC meetings, make a motion, get your group motivated and push for reform.
Seems like everybody wants things to change but nobody is willing to make the financial, time, or personal investment to make it so...
10-17-2006, 02:21 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Seems like everybody wants things to change but nobody is willing to make the financial, time, or personal investment to make it so...
10-17-2006, 05:13 PM
#15
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The only way to get rid of the contract is to vote the ALPA out in one vote then come back and vote your in house or Teamsters.In reality we need ALPA but with a stronger leader and more national standards on contracts.
10-17-2006, 05:15 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by HalinTexas
Wrong again. Your local reps go to Herndon to get training. Your local reps use the legal and financial advice supplied by National. In a manner of speaking, National leaves your Local swinging in the wind.
All of the ALPA carriers have taken huge paycuts. Haven't heard the same from those in Herndon.
You can change your representation with one vote. It doesn't require tearing one down and starting over. Your existing contract will still be in force.
All of the ALPA carriers have taken huge paycuts. Haven't heard the same from those in Herndon.
You can change your representation with one vote. It doesn't require tearing one down and starting over. Your existing contract will still be in force.
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