No problem, thanks.

 

I talked to my rep. 4% starting july 1, then 8.5% 1 jan, then 3 then 3. I feel like throwing up.

 

If true:

 

Answer the question... what will they do, and how will they do it?

 

Apparently offset by 35% decrease in profit sharing. Did we REALLY just allow more 76 seaters for what is essentially status quo?

 

They could have started by not ratifying a crap TA (which we don't even get to see yet since the spin-machine isn't properly spun yet) and wasting our time on a vote.

What part of PAY and SCOPE did ALPA not hear in our survey results?

 

Agree.

Nice 5,561 post.

But 5,561 posts? Looser.



I think one day I'll start my car and it'll blow up. Please point to Denny or T, I think they've had all they can stand of my gramma and spellin.

 

Not necessarily, but I do not think they would do any better either. The supporters apparently DO think they could do better. That is fine.. I want them to tell me HOW they would do better. As I said, if these rumors are true, I am not very happy about it. Personally, I do not want to go down the road that APA went down. Do we deserve 30% pay increases? Absolutely. Is it reasonably attainable? You have to judge that for yourself. I can see what the rest of the industry is doing, and I will make my judgement based on that. That is all I am gonna say about that.

Lastly, I still do not trust FAQs to answer my questions about their motives either, and you know exactly what I am talking about. If they want respect, they need to act like they want to be treated. Open the website if you have nothing to hide. Let's see what you are all about. I am not going to further their political quest by signing a card just to read their so-called transparent information.

 

I don't like the contract and will vote against it. However I have not ever known when ALPA national interjected themselves into Dalpa negotiations and don't believe that happened this time. In fact the agreement substantially reduces the number of DCI pilots that will be working on contract for Delta airlines. The hard cap on DCI will be 455 airframes down from something above 650 now. They also will not be able to access one additional 76 seat airframe without mainline growth.

The more I read and hear it actually is becoming obvious to me that the agreement contains a lot more for the bottom half of the seniority list then the top half. My initial reaction was that it could not ratify. As I hear more I believe it will pass with the bottom half of the list. The top half however will vote it down. The question is by how much and will it offset the bottom. The bottom will look at the advancement the deal will offer and ignore the small contractual raises for the upgrade opportunities. If what I hear is true they may be substantial.
To get out of the leases on a large number of RJ's the company will have to place a substantial aircraft order with the company that holds those leases. You can connect the dots on what that means but it starts with a C.

 

And that will make it better... how? It really comes down to the basic assumption that the negotiators are incompetent. That is the DPA perspective. Interestingly enough, they (DPA) have proven NOTHING about their abilities. And with that in mind,you would rather buy a pig in a poke, than go with something that is tested. I definitely do not want to go down the APA road.. do you?

Again, don't get me wrong, I am not happy with the rumors I am hearing, and I have emailed my reps saying just that very thing. But bloviating about how DPA will do better is like a blind white slip. You can't be angry when you get that uncommutable MEX trip. If we vote them in.. it is a bind WS. I do not think the risk is worth the gain.