Delta has a TA
05-22-2012 | 09:30 AM
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At the very least they need to know all the areas they screwed up and that we expect a positive TA that wasn't funded with concessions around every corner.
05-22-2012 | 09:35 AM
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I absolutely get that. But if we send it back (and we should) the next step will be telling them why. If we just say pay wasn't enough, they will come back with another TA with the pay (rates) that will pass. But its how they will get there (more work rule concessions, more scope concessions, even more favorable language, even less profit sharing, etc).
At the very least they need to know all the areas they screwed up and that we expect a positive TA that wasn't funded with concessions around every corner.
At the very least they need to know all the areas they screwed up and that we expect a positive TA that wasn't funded with concessions around every corner.
05-22-2012 | 09:41 AM
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Delta to add Southwest's 717s to fleet | Reuters
Looks like dalpa just got more leverage to vote NO! Someone's making a whole lotta assumptions about this pos passing.
Looks like dalpa just got more leverage to vote NO! Someone's making a whole lotta assumptions about this pos passing.
05-22-2012 | 10:08 AM
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Received an email from council 20. Both reps from Council 20 voted no. 14 yes votes total, 5 voted against. So we know 4 of the 5 that voted no were MSP and DTW, don't know who number 5 is.
05-22-2012 | 10:09 AM
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05-22-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Seriously? That's a ridiculous question. It is absolutely completely relevant and I don't understand how you could see it otherwise. Many people want to know who voted no and yes because it may affect how they vote in future MEC elections. Also, the fact that there is a split is evidence to many people that this contract was not a "home run" and some from the MEC believed we could have done better
05-22-2012 | 10:30 AM
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I meant to say I think we should have larger increases in pay (at least to bring us up to SWA pay rates) with absolutely no other concessions of any kind anywhere in the contract. And we should never agree to a contract that allows for a single additional 76 seat a/c not flown by mainline pilots.
This concessionary madness has to end somewhere sometime. It might as well be now when the company is doing extremely well and they need our cooperation.
This concessionary madness has to end somewhere sometime. It might as well be now when the company is doing extremely well and they need our cooperation.
05-22-2012 | 10:34 AM
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I meant to say I think we should have larger increases in pay (at least to bring us up to SWA pay rates) with absolutely no other concessions of any kind anywhere in the contract. And we should never agree to a contract that allows for a single additional 76 seat a/c not flown by mainline pilots.
This concessionary madness has to end somewhere sometime. It might as well be now when the company is doing extremely well and they need our cooperation.
This concessionary madness has to end somewhere sometime. It might as well be now when the company is doing extremely well and they need our cooperation.
05-22-2012 | 10:38 AM
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Seriously? That's a ridiculous question. It is absolutely completely relevant and I don't understand how you could see it otherwise. Many people want to know who voted no and yes because it may affect how they vote in future MEC elections. Also, the fact that there is a split is evidence to many people that this contract was not a "home run" and some from the MEC believed we could have done better
"I do one thing at a time, I do it very well, and then I move on"... meatball surgery not required here.
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