Delta's 76 Seat Pay
05-25-2012 | 11:50 AM
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Delta's 76 Seat Pay
Haven't you guys negotiated payrates for the CRJ-900? If the company wants to get out of bad lease agreements for the crj-200 and can only do so by getting more 76 seaters then why not just tell management to go ahead and buy them since you've already agreed to payrates for them not once but at least twice now. Why have them unless you are just using them as a pacifier of hope. Sounds like you guys already have a hard cap at 255 for the 76 seaters. If you think you could have a hard cap at 450 (new # I think) if this passes, ask yourself this question. Did you think you had a hard cap at 255 (70/76 seaters) when the last contract was being presented to you? Hard Caps on anything are only hard if you enforce it.
05-25-2012 | 04:22 PM
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Its because of ALPA National's commitments under the RJDC lawsuit settlement.
Same reason we have a clause requiring us to hire 35% ALPA DCI pilots in every class.
We can't "recapture" too much scope too fast or ALPA will get sued.
The same old ALPA conflict of interest we've been discussing for years.
Same reason we have a clause requiring us to hire 35% ALPA DCI pilots in every class.
We can't "recapture" too much scope too fast or ALPA will get sued.
The same old ALPA conflict of interest we've been discussing for years.
05-25-2012 | 04:44 PM
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Who would be the flight attendants and mechanics for our 76 seat operation? How would it work? What would the costs be? How about we use those costs to get more mainline planes instead, and just put a limit on the RJs?
05-25-2012 | 05:27 PM
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Bill, why have any Delta employees at all?
05-25-2012 | 06:12 PM
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Bill, a 90-seat jet is a mainline aircraft, at least it used to be.
05-25-2012 | 06:13 PM
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So instead of having the cost of having 76seaters at mainline you want to use that money to get more planes at mainline instead?
05-25-2012 | 06:18 PM
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If the flight attendants and mechanics were delta employees on your 76seat operation the costs would probably be the same regardless of the aircraft 76-300 seats. Of course the 300 seat airplane would have more flight attendants on it.
05-27-2012 | 08:22 AM
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Its because of ALPA National's commitments under the RJDC lawsuit settlement.
Same reason we have a clause requiring us to hire 35% ALPA DCI pilots in every class.
We can't "recapture" too much scope too fast or ALPA will get sued.
The same old ALPA conflict of interest we've been discussing for years.
Same reason we have a clause requiring us to hire 35% ALPA DCI pilots in every class.
We can't "recapture" too much scope too fast or ALPA will get sued.
The same old ALPA conflict of interest we've been discussing for years.
05-27-2012 | 08:31 AM
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Good question on the cost. Your company has already agreed to pay rates for the pilots at least twice and I would assume the rest of your company would still make the same pay. Do the flight attendants and mechanics make different pay when they work on the 747 vs. md88? Or are you asking about the cost (outsourcing) that could help save the company money, which in turn helps you get a bigger pay raise or better work rules. If it is the latter then that is pretty weak asking others to work for less so you can make more money.
Those would be more mainline airplanes if you got them.
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