Latest NNP addressing FAQ questions/concerns
06-12-2012 | 06:01 PM
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There was some ALPA document I saw recently. Either the roadshow handouts or the TA video presentation where they explain why the 320 pays more than the M88 (it was based off aircraft speed and efficiency or something like that).
They want to be told that their 124 seat aircraft pays what Southwest's 137 seat aircraft pays.
They want to be told that their 124 seat aircraft pays what Southwest's 137 seat aircraft pays.
During the JCBA, the A-320 fit in between the MD-88 and the 737 in terms of size, efficiency, and capabilities. Certainly the A-320 is a more efficient aircraft than the MD-88 with longer range. The difference is now 1.8% when the MD-88 was put with MD-90 rates, hardly a ghastly difference.
The MEC, through the pilot survey, dictated what the negotiating priorities were. Putting the MD-88 up to the A-320 was not on the pilots' list of priorities. Putting the MD-88 up to the MD-90 was. I am not sure how much simpler that gets.
06-12-2012 | 06:34 PM
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06-12-2012 | 06:39 PM
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Nanny nanny foo, your head looks a poo poo. Now that we are done with the fourth grades taunts let's get back to the question.
Why didn't the TA put the MD-88 rates to A-320 rates?
Because the pilots said they wanted to match MD-88 to MD-90 and that is what the MEC did. That is pretty much straightforward. I can't believe you don't understand it.
Why didn't the TA put the MD-88 rates to A-320 rates?
Because the pilots said they wanted to match MD-88 to MD-90 and that is what the MEC did. That is pretty much straightforward. I can't believe you don't understand it.
06-12-2012 | 06:54 PM
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Each time that Delta gets a new more efficient aircraft the MEC has tried to capture some of that efficiency for the pilots in terms of higher pay rates. That is what we did with the 737-800, the 767-400, and the 777. Those aircraft all paid well above what their predecessors paid.
During the JCBA, the A-320 fit in between the MD-88 and the 737 in terms of size, efficiency, and capabilities. Certainly the A-320 is a more efficient aircraft than the MD-88 with longer range. The difference is now 1.8% when the MD-88 was put with MD-90 rates, hardly a ghastly difference.
The MEC, through the pilot survey, dictated what the negotiating priorities were. Putting the MD-88 up to the A-320 was not on the pilots' list of priorities. Putting the MD-88 up to the MD-90 was. I am not sure how much simpler that gets.
During the JCBA, the A-320 fit in between the MD-88 and the 737 in terms of size, efficiency, and capabilities. Certainly the A-320 is a more efficient aircraft than the MD-88 with longer range. The difference is now 1.8% when the MD-88 was put with MD-90 rates, hardly a ghastly difference.
The MEC, through the pilot survey, dictated what the negotiating priorities were. Putting the MD-88 up to the A-320 was not on the pilots' list of priorities. Putting the MD-88 up to the MD-90 was. I am not sure how much simpler that gets.
06-12-2012 | 06:56 PM
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06-12-2012 | 07:00 PM
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We don't want to show our hand afterall...Despite the fact that this TA comes no where near "our hand."
We heard you loud and clear
We will not rush this TA...
I find it hard to believe that pilots believe ALPA represents their interests.
06-12-2012 | 07:10 PM
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There was some ALPA document I saw recently. Either the roadshow handouts or the TA video presentation where they explain why the 320 pays more than the M88 (it was based off aircraft speed and efficiency or something like that).
They want to be told that their 124 seat aircraft pays what Southwest's 137 seat aircraft pays.
They want to be told that their 124 seat aircraft pays what Southwest's 137 seat aircraft pays.
I hope I get to make you mad because of your 60,000 dollars.
06-12-2012 | 07:13 PM
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The resolution came from Council 108. The MEC passed it unanimously. It states it outright, get MD-90 rates for the MD-88. It said nothing about A-320. What is hard to believe, it is in black and white. If they meant A-320, then why didn't they say A-320? Was it all a massive misdirection play to fool the negotiators?
