That and they will have to deal with us over FTDT before the end of the year or they get no changes there. There is leverage times 2.

What I really question is whether the MEC Chairman and Negotiating Chairman who are already conceding we'll do worse and have to give up something for it are up to the task of being more aggressive when, if what I'm reading is even half true disregarded the will of the pilots and the direction they were given reference pay by the MEC?

 

Nah, I'll take the 717s and a 19.7% raise. If there is another merger, you can add more cash to it because of a JCBA that would be needed. Makes you wonder why the last 2 years of the TA would be at 3% each? That I guess could go up.

 

Actually, this problem is identical to the problem AT had. By letting it get this far (out of negotiations to a formal TA) we (all the pilots) have lost any leverage we might have had. While I'm a No vote because there are a lot of things I don't think are acceptable it is more a matter of principle for me than thinking that there will be enough No votes to turn this down. While I think we could have done a lot better I don't think this MEC and NC has any plan going forward should this fail ratification. This should have stayed in the negotiation phase until the terms were acceptable (yes, I understand NEGOTIATION) which included getting closer to the survey, not requiring more work (I now see where DALPA thinks our average work month should be 80 hours so they can make the financials look better for the pilots - remember - this is worth $54,000+ to all of us). By getting to a TA and getting it through the MEC, it put DAL on the current path (announcing the change of profit sharing to the rest of the rank and file, the new pay raise to the rank and file, the 717s being contingent on passing the TA, the early retirement program for pilots, and on and on) that will probably result in contentious negotiations going forward. Don't tell me this is the best we can do - I just don't believe it (yes, I have read the TA - multiple times, and yes - I have looked at the NNPs and council member letters).

 

Smart people realize the house always wins, hence never gamble.

 

I agree. The TA is a good deal.

 

Sorry FL370, but you walked right into that one.

You need to have your guard up with Bill.

 

whoops my bad.


can i say my bad? i'm still coming to terms with the fact if they remade Back to thr Future in 3 years that going from 2015 to 1985 is the same amount of time as going from 1985 to 1955. geeish.

 

Where's my damn flying DeLorean, and Mr. Fusion?

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