I'm sorry to be so blunt about it Hook, but that's exactly what you'll be showing people like Mr. Campbell who was hired specifically for this purpose. A YES vote to something clearly insufficient in so many ways for a pilot group flying for the most profitable airline in the world will tell Mr. Campbell what is clear: A majority of Delta pilots are AFRAID of section 6 negotiations. Your/our future will be slightly different variations of early talks to produce more job sales...under threat of taking you to section 6 if you don't behave.

This is so much bigger than just this TA.

Carl

 

Yep-too many are hung like a hamster and fold at the first signs of veiled threats.
Btw, Lumberg, don't you think our wise ALPA team also has a plan B?

 

This is EXACTLY correct. Our process is actually important to all of us. When it's ignored, problems result.

I'm reminded of the place Mr. Obama finds himself now. His health care bill was passed after the election of Scott Brown in Massachussetts via a flouting of the legislative process called "continuing resolution". It removed the newly elected Senator's right to vote on the bill, and it passed by 1 vote. The bill has now been a huge weight on him ever since, and it will very likely be judged as unconstitutional this week...only months before the election. All because the process was subverted.

Processes matter. They can often be cumbersome...but they are there for a reason. When they are ignored for expediency, the resulting unintended consequences are often devastating. My prediction for DALPA is that this single action by the MEC will result in the decertification of DALPA before our next section 6. Maybe not by DPA, but another in-house union drive.

Carl

 

And a free Lumberger.

Carl

 

This post illustrates what you so clearly misunderstand. It is NOT the job of the MEC administration to decide for the pilots what is achievable and what is not. This is a bottom-up union structure - and I KNOW you know that. Even if the MEC feels the pilot's survey was BAD for the pilot group, it is their JOB to produce those results. Even if it turns out that the MEC administration is correct and pushing for the survey results was a mistake, it DOES NOT MATTER because the pilot's will would have been done. THAT is the job of the MEC...to execute the will of the pilots through their elected local reps.

Carl

 

Would not a smart "union" team also have one?

Carl

 

Yup! Totally obvious and totally amazing that so many can't figure it out.

 

Sometimes the dealer has a better hand, but you could always go for a 3rd card while holding a pair of nines....go for it....

 

Yes, the alternate plan for the union is to go back to negotiating, but it could go on a couple more years for less money eventually. Do you really think a strike could ever be in the cards? Rule that out. So, the options are limited, and so was the offer. I think it's a pretty good offer for a 3 year contract though. It gets us in the direction we want to go pay wise, and improvements in many areas.

 

Well okay then, let's all demand full restoration...........six years later....