AMR TA allows more large RJ's than Delta
06-27-2012 | 07:26 PM
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AMR TA allows more large RJ's than Delta
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At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
06-27-2012 | 07:30 PM
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Just curious, did APA hire ALPA's EF&A to do analysis for them?
06-27-2012 | 07:54 PM
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Courtesy of Slowplay
At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
06-27-2012 | 07:57 PM
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Now if American could only get 8 more connection partners to help Eagle and CHQ carry the load...
06-27-2012 | 08:29 PM
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Courtesy of Slowplay
At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
At a current narrowbody fleet count of 497 AMR can operate the following RJ fleet in 2016:
35% up to 65 seaters (CRJ-700 in 2 class) = 174
40% up to 79 seaters (CRJ-900,EMB175,MRJ90) = 199
That's a total of 373 large RJ's allowed. They also get 10% 50 seat turboprops for total outsourcing at current fleet size of 423 aircraft.
Now what if the grow? If they grow the same size as Delta (723) they would be allowed 253 65 seaters and 289 79 seaters plus an additional 72 turboprops.
So which is better?
Up to 289 79 seaters or 223 76 seaters?
Up to 253 CRJ-700 or 102 CRJ-700/EMB-170?
Oh, did you happen to notice their Alaska code sharing is unrestricted now...
06-27-2012 | 09:07 PM
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Nice DALPA tactic. Compare to the least common denominator (who happens to be in Bankruptcy right now) and thump your chest as we allow more large RJ's and breath new life into regional flying. Lets not compare to SWA scope....nah. As some others have said of ALPA.....set low goals then fail to achieve them.
Admit our TA is better than what they (AA) may have and then move on. UA/CAL is next or they won't get a raise unfortunately. That's how it works when you get feed from small cities. There are plenty of routes out there that can't sustain a mainline plane. On those routes, RJs are probably the right sized plane, and if the routes do well, a mainline plane may be put on it. SWA doesn't go to every small community out there, and actually recently announced closure of 17 Airtran routes. SWA doesn't use smaller community feed like DL does. Bad comparison. Btw, AA got this TA with the APA, not ALPA.
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06-28-2012 | 03:24 AM
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I have to agree with Jack here.
06-28-2012 | 05:13 AM
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