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Bucking Bar 07-11-2012 01:57 PM
Interesting that these operators have such confidence in Mitsubishi when the Company's previous efforts have not produced aircraft which were all that safe, or successful in the market.

Mean while Delta remains unsure of Boeing and Bombardier's products (except for used 20 to 30+ year old technology) acquired at the airline version of "pull a part auto rebuilders."

Tail wags dog.

acl65pilot 07-11-2012 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1228075)
ACl,
Explain the ramifications or possible future phase-in of this cutout, please. Thanks.
Why did Rjet get this?

TEN
Sailing is correct. Gong forward if an operator like SKW decides to operate jets outside of DCI that are not permitted, would Dal allow them to be cut or find a way to modify the PWA language to make their decision easier on Dal?

Bill Lumberg 07-11-2012 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1228096)
Interesting that these operators have such confidence in Mitsubishi when the Company's previous efforts have not produced aircraft which were all that safe, or successful in the market.

Mean while Delta remains unsure of Boeing and Bombardier's products (except for used 20 to 30+ year old technology) acquired at the airline version of "pull a part auto rebuilders."

Tail wags dog.
I talked to an FAA mx inspector in DTW who was heading back to Nagoya for a couple weeks to oversee the certification process for that plane. He didn't seem too impressed, said it was very "interesting" and I think I saw him roll his eyes.

tim123 07-11-2012 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1228057)
No. Small domestic narrowbody swaps for smaller domestic narrowbody is one thing, international birds are not a comparator.

That is when Farnborough Air Show takes place..... Black helicopert.
Yes and it was the company and ALPA pushing so hard and fast to get it done so early.

Xjetter 07-11-2012 04:18 PM
I didn't know Delta management posted on this forum. You guys work for Delta?? Your suppose to be smart...Top Gun graduates..

SkyWest Holdings owns SkyWest and ExpressJet. They operate 700 aircraft. Most of which are 50 seaters.

You guys vote for more 70's..and there is a 7 page thread on it?!?!

gloopy 07-11-2012 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1227930)
Skywest cannot take delivery of these airplanes under the recently ratified TA. Not without us giving up scope...
I thought that depended on which variant they end up getting. Anyway if it comes down to it, no quarter. Cut them off and let them fade away into the landfill of airline history.

gloopy 07-11-2012 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1228096)
Interesting that these operators have such confidence in Mitsubishi when the Company's previous efforts have not produced aircraft which were all that safe, or successful in the market.

Mean while Delta remains unsure of Boeing and Bombardier's products (except for used 20 to 30+ year old technology) acquired at the airline version of "pull a part auto rebuilders."

Tail wags dog.
True. It seems like any and all "scope jets" fly off the shelves in a frantic real estate order book bubble only to quickly peter out as the industry learns the hard way they are POS's and they bought way too many and paid way, way, way too much for them.

But the pilots work for less, so its an autowin, amirite?

More B school brilliance from the MBA crowd.

tsquare 07-11-2012 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1227887)
Hi, I understand that. They have more seats. But not for Delta. 76 is the limit, and there is a limit for the number of those planes too.
And that is all that matters. SKYW is an independent solvent company. They can do what they want. They can buy whatever airplanes they want. They just cannot do any of that flying for DAL if it exceeds our scope. Much ado about nothing.

tsquare 07-11-2012 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1227910)
If they can't operate them,we can be sure ALPA will change the pwa to let them.
Sure could. Of course since WE are ALPA, it would have to be US doing that, and I find that highly unlikely.

tsquare 07-11-2012 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1227930)
Skywest cannot take delivery of these airplanes under the recently ratified TA. Not without us giving up scope...
How do you figure that?


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