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Originally Posted by todd1200
(Post 1227972)
What prohibits them? MTOW? Can they be configured for 76 seats (Like the "90" seat CRJ 900) and flown legally?
A 747-400 is a 500+ seat airplane, but that doesn't mean you put in as many seats as you possibly can in it. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1227978)
Contracts don't expire, they become amendable.
They aren't amended unless a new agreement is reached. It doesn't just become void (Pinnacle's contract was amendable from 2005- an agreement was finally reached last year, CAL and UAL have been amendable for a while as well) |
Maybe the MRJs are for an AMR code share. What does their new TA allow, up to 79 seats? Maybe the contract with Mitsubishi has a contingency clause depending on the pilot TA and the BK precedings.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1227967)
The new TA prohibits something that size from being flown by any of our regional carriers (except RAH) completely- doesn't matter who its being flown for.
And do you honestly think that they will not find a way around that? |
Originally Posted by etflies
(Post 1227974)
Not sure if it makes much of a difference, but if the TA expires in 2015 and these aren't even slated to show up til 2017, does it matter what the current TA says?
Honest question, btw. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1227930)
Skywest cannot take delivery of these airplanes under the recently ratified TA. Not without us giving up scope...
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So what does Deltas PWA say regarding scope?
Is it weight, certified seats? If it's just seats and no other criteria then whats to stop them from farming out 25 737s that have 70 seats, all business class, coast-to-coast premium service to skywest? |
MTOW of the 51-76 jets in the DAL contract is 86000 lbs. There is a Compass only exception for 36 EMB-175's MTOW up to 89,000 lbs. According to the Mitsubishi website the MRJ-70STD MTOW is about 82000, and the MRJ-70ER is just under 86000. All the MRJ-90's are too big for our contract restrictions.
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Alright, let me see if I can help out the cause. Here are three excerpts from the PWA:
Section 1.B.46, the definition of what a permitted aircraft is for DCI: http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/TEMP1-47.png Section 1.C where we say all flying is ours. Section 1.D where we exempt DCI (or category A operations) from 1.C. and then 1.B.11-13 where we define category A operations as DCI. http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/temp2-43.png |
Now the MRJ's:
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/temp3-39.png For comparison purposes the specifications of the E-175 is here and you can find the E-190 stuff at http://www.embraer.com/en-US/Aeronaves/Pages/Home.aspx: http://www.embraercommercialjets.com...wnload/137.pdf |
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