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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1228220)
How do you figure that?
I thought this thing was more like the C-series. Quite interesting the timing of the delivery date, in that instance. Just in time for another "good deal" for Delta pilots, eh? ;) |
Originally Posted by tim123
(Post 1228169)
Yes and it was the company and ALPA pushing so hard and fast to get it done so early.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1228221)
I posted that before I knew there were models below 86,000 lbs.
I thought this thing was more like the C-series. Quite interesting the timing of the delivery date, in that instance. Just in time for another "good deal" for Delta pilots, eh? ;) |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1228197)
I thought that depended on which variant they end up getting. Anyway if it comes down to it, no quarter. Cut them off and let them fade away into the landfill of airline history.
Or they could go fly for AMR or somewhere else I guess.. but not here. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1228228)
I don't see what the concern is.. This is a bunch of paranoia run amok.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1228228)
I don't see what the concern is.. This is a bunch of paranoia run amok.
The alert had better be up for ALPA giving up more jumbo RJ's for a "good deal" next around as well, though. |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1228230)
Some of these people are the same ones who asked "Where does it say we WILL get 717s?"
Well in all fairness, there is nothing in the contract that said we WILL get them. It DOES say that in order to do the RJ deal they must get them and put them into service.. but they could have tanked the whole deal and run with the RJ fleet in the current configuration. It wouldn't make any sense.. but they could have done that.. |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1227890)
Really? Talk about gullible. It's called the Farnburough Air Show. That is when airlines are courted by manufacturers. That is when airlines make announcements, along with the Paris Airshow. Do you think that was all coordinated? Wow.
The "Black Helicopter" scenario - SKW has a plan and knows where these aircraft will be going, despite the fact that United/Continental scope and the entire AA operation are unknowns... which leaves Delta or branded as the only other options. i.e.: This is all coordinated. or... The "Unicorns and Rainbows" scenario - Wade Steel (SKW Finance) just gave Mike Thompson (SKW Marketing) a check for two billion dollars and told him to fly over to Farnborough and do some shopping. Try to get a good deal on a bunch of aircraft that we don't have any plans for. Maybe go poke around that Mitsubishi booth and see if you can get some free tote bags, but don't buy any timeshares or a hundred airplanes unless it looks like a great deal spur-of-the-moment. We'll sort out the details when you get back. i.e.: This is entirely uncoordinated. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1228232)
Well in all fairness, there is nothing in the contract that said we WILL get them. It DOES say that in order to do the RJ deal they must get them and put them into service.. but they could have tanked the whole deal and run with the RJ fleet in the current configuration. It wouldn't make any sense.. but they could have done that..
It didn't make sense for them to not get the 717's even with out the TA, but that's neither here nor there now. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1228240)
I see two possible scenarios to this announcement:
The "Black Helicopter" scenario - SKW has a plan and knows where these aircraft will be going, despite the fact that United/Continental scope and the entire AA operation are unknowns... which leaves Delta or branded as the only other options. i.e.: This is all coordinated. or... The "Unicorns and Rainbows" scenario - Wade Steel (SKW Finance) just gave Mike Thompson (SKW Marketing) a check for two billion dollars and told him to fly over to Farnborough and do some shopping. Try to get a good deal on a bunch of aircraft that we don't have any plans for. Maybe go poke around that Mitsubishi booth and see if you can get some free tote bags, but don't buy any timeshares or a hundred airplanes unless it looks like a great deal spur-of-the-moment. We'll sort out the details when you get back. i.e.: This is entirely uncoordinated. |
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