SKW getting 100 MRJs?
07-11-2012 | 05:46 PM
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Well in all fairness, there is nothing in the contract that said we WILL get them. It DOES say that in order to do the RJ deal they must get them and put them into service.. but they could have tanked the whole deal and run with the RJ fleet in the current configuration. It wouldn't make any sense.. but they could have done that..
07-11-2012 | 05:48 PM
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I see two possible scenarios to this announcement:
The "Black Helicopter" scenario - SKW has a plan and knows where these aircraft will be going, despite the fact that United/Continental scope and the entire AA operation are unknowns... which leaves Delta or branded as the only other options. i.e.: This is all coordinated.
or...
The "Unicorns and Rainbows" scenario - Wade Steel (SKW Finance) just gave Mike Thompson (SKW Marketing) a check for two billion dollars and told him to fly over to Farnborough and do some shopping. Try to get a good deal on a bunch of aircraft that we don't have any plans for. Maybe go poke around that Mitsubishi booth and see if you can get some free tote bags, but don't buy any timeshares or a hundred airplanes unless it looks like a great deal spur-of-the-moment. We'll sort out the details when you get back. i.e.: This is entirely uncoordinated.
The "Black Helicopter" scenario - SKW has a plan and knows where these aircraft will be going, despite the fact that United/Continental scope and the entire AA operation are unknowns... which leaves Delta or branded as the only other options. i.e.: This is all coordinated.
or...
The "Unicorns and Rainbows" scenario - Wade Steel (SKW Finance) just gave Mike Thompson (SKW Marketing) a check for two billion dollars and told him to fly over to Farnborough and do some shopping. Try to get a good deal on a bunch of aircraft that we don't have any plans for. Maybe go poke around that Mitsubishi booth and see if you can get some free tote bags, but don't buy any timeshares or a hundred airplanes unless it looks like a great deal spur-of-the-moment. We'll sort out the details when you get back. i.e.: This is entirely uncoordinated.
07-11-2012 | 05:56 PM
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I don't think it matters. I thought there was one loophole, the Republic loophole that allowed planes to be flown at another airline over the MTOW or 76 seats, that being Frontier. I thought the new contract didn't allow other feeders to have larger planes or it risked their feed contracts. FtB still probably thinks I work for Air Grand Canyon, but in reality I don't carry the contract on me, so I come here to ask smarty pants guys like him.
I would hope that the guys who spent a month arguing how airtight the TA's "permitted aircraft" language is, would remember what that language permitted 11 days later.
Bill, sorry if I'm misreading the inflection, tone, and emotion of your posts.
07-11-2012 | 05:56 PM
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Alright, so according to Wikipedia Skywest has 20 CR7s and 21 CR9s and ExpressJet (ASA) has 46 CR7s and 10 CR9s. Or 97 CR7s/CR9s.
They said this MRJ order was 100 replacement jets and so that works out if the MRJ-70STD can be a decent 70 seater and the MRJ-70ER is a good 76-seater.
But here's a thought, operate MRJs for DCI and then operate MRJ-90s for your own branded operation without any limitation other than city pair routings. Gives you options and allows you to diversify income possibilities and be in position to pounce on a good opportunity.
Like buying Delta.
Seriously, isn't outsourcing big jets brilliant on our part!
They said this MRJ order was 100 replacement jets and so that works out if the MRJ-70STD can be a decent 70 seater and the MRJ-70ER is a good 76-seater.
But here's a thought, operate MRJs for DCI and then operate MRJ-90s for your own branded operation without any limitation other than city pair routings. Gives you options and allows you to diversify income possibilities and be in position to pounce on a good opportunity.
Like buying Delta.
Seriously, isn't outsourcing big jets brilliant on our part!
07-11-2012 | 06:02 PM
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Please, please... please!!! tell me that the biggest SCOPE proponent on APC knows his new contract's SCOPE rules better than this.
I would hope that the guys who spent a month arguing how airtight the TA's "permitted aircraft" language is, would remember what that language permitted 11 days later.
Bill, sorry if I'm misreading the inflection, tone, and emotion of your posts.
I would hope that the guys who spent a month arguing how airtight the TA's "permitted aircraft" language is, would remember what that language permitted 11 days later.
Bill, sorry if I'm misreading the inflection, tone, and emotion of your posts.
07-11-2012 | 06:21 PM
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- Delta and SKW were making deals in room 1, while
- Delta and Bombardier were dealing in room 2, while
- SKW and Mitsubishi were dealing in room 3,
- and all the while Delta and DALPA were negotiating in room 4...
What is unlikely, in my opinion, is that SkyWest placing a huge order for jumbo RJs has nothing to do with Delta's TA passage 11 days ago.
07-11-2012 | 06:40 PM
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- Delta and Southwest were in room 5,
- Delta and Boeing were in room 6,
- Southwest was sharpening knives in front of FL ALPA under the stairwell,
- Ray LaHood was in room 7 steaming mad about Delta's refusal to buy him off... I mean contribute.
07-11-2012 | 06:42 PM
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Please, please... please!!! tell me that the biggest SCOPE proponent on APC knows his new contract's SCOPE rules better than this.
I would hope that the guys who spent a month arguing how airtight the TA's "permitted aircraft" language is, would remember what that language permitted 11 days later.
Bill, sorry if I'm misreading the inflection, tone, and emotion of your posts.
I would hope that the guys who spent a month arguing how airtight the TA's "permitted aircraft" language is, would remember what that language permitted 11 days later.
Bill, sorry if I'm misreading the inflection, tone, and emotion of your posts.
And maybe I am reading your emotion a little bit too much, but it seems like you are getting "emotional.". Remember, this is just business.
07-11-2012 | 06:50 PM
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- Jerry Sandusky wonders if his next shanking will be meat, wood, or steel in shower room 8.
- Timmay Martins pencilwhips his logbook to show 1004 TPIC (because 1000 looks suspicious) and photoshops a 737 Type and ATP onto his Commercial license in room 9.
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