International Jumpseats.
#21
Not sure why I keep seen the Neosporin ads in here, maybe is a sign? Anyway guys I really.need your help I'm stuck in SJO(or LIR) and need to get out today, I couldnt find anything on the Polar side, is anybody able to check Atlas? Or any other suggestions? All flights have been oversold for the past 2 days and with the weather moving through up North the have also cancelled some flights.
#22
I flew SFO-FRA on UAL a couple days ago by 'jumpseating.' I checked in at service counter 2.5 hrs early and the agent told me that she couldn't list me until 2 hrs or less before departure.... No big deal, she was very nice and gave me a standby pass no problems. Then, when I got to the gate the agent told me that I wasn't listed on flight even though my name was up on the standby board. I rushed back out to the service counter and after the original agent consulted with somebody with experience working the gate they called down and told the gate that I 'was' listed for the flight. So, back through security where there was a ticket with a seat waiting for me
I checked in with the flightdeck and dropped off some treats, they asked if I had been given me an upgrade but I told them that the flight seemed full. I also dropped off some treats with the flight attendants. I sat in an economy seat with no-one next to me. The flight attendants were very nice and made sure I had everything I needed. Everyone was great. Best part is that it cost me zero dollars.
I did buy a couple zeds for my return flight and based on the loads I'm going to try LH MUC-SFO tomorrow. I used kayak dot com to look at seats remaining for my flights; the UAL agent actually recommended that technique.
Good luck on your travels.
I checked in with the flightdeck and dropped off some treats, they asked if I had been given me an upgrade but I told them that the flight seemed full. I also dropped off some treats with the flight attendants. I sat in an economy seat with no-one next to me. The flight attendants were very nice and made sure I had everything I needed. Everyone was great. Best part is that it cost me zero dollars.
I did buy a couple zeds for my return flight and based on the loads I'm going to try LH MUC-SFO tomorrow. I used kayak dot com to look at seats remaining for my flights; the UAL agent actually recommended that technique.
Good luck on your travels.
#23
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Not sure why I keep seen the Neosporin ads in here, maybe is a sign? Anyway guys I really.need your help I'm stuck in SJO(or LIR) and need to get out today, I couldnt find anything on the Polar side, is anybody able to check Atlas? Or any other suggestions? All flights have been oversold for the past 2 days and with the weather moving through up North the have also cancelled some flights.
LIR - YYZ on the 6th.
Just gotta call the jumpseat number to list and pay taxes
#24
The stupid thing about not riding in the flight deck jumpeat internationally (unless it is your own carrier) is that applies to U.S. airlines only. I know for a fact there are at least two large European airlines that will put non-revs, not just pilots, in flight deck jumpseats to and from the States. I was offered the second jumpseat heading to Europe but got bumped at the last minute by the teenage son of a ramper for the airline. The first jumpseat was occupied by a gate agent. I have also ridden in the flight deck within Europe on a ZED ticket.
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The stupid thing about not riding in the flight deck jumpeat internationally (unless it is your own carrier) is that applies to U.S. airlines only. I know for a fact there are at least two large European airlines that will put non-revs, not just pilots, in flight deck jumpseats to and from the States. I was offered the second jumpseat heading to Europe but got bumped at the last minute by the teenage son of a ramper for the airline. The first jumpseat was occupied by a gate agent. I have also ridden in the flight deck within Europe on a ZED ticket.
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The stupid thing about not riding in the flight deck jumpeat internationally (unless it is your own carrier) is that applies to U.S. airlines only. I know for a fact there are at least two large European airlines that will put non-revs, not just pilots, in flight deck jumpseats to and from the States. I was offered the second jumpseat heading to Europe but got bumped at the last minute by the teenage son of a ramper for the airline. The first jumpseat was occupied by a gate agent. I have also ridden in the flight deck within Europe on a ZED ticket.
I don't know any European carrier that lets you jumpseat for free.
With a ZED ticket most carriers will let the Captain decides who sits in the jumpseat , employees,relatives etc., all done at Captains discretion.
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Unless it's one of the ACMI carriers that complies with a certain TSA directive, you WON'T be sitting on the ACTUAL JS on a carrier other than your own for international flights.
#29
Yes, you do have to have a ZED ticket. But the fact that any employee or their dependent/parent can occupy the flight deck jumpseat while traveling to and from the United States is proof the restriction U.S. carriers have is just plain stupid. We, as pilots, are totally known entities to the United States government. We have passed background checks and are handed the controls of large airliners. They know who we are, were we are from, and what we do for a living and totally trust us to do our jobs. That they prevent us from occupying the flight deck jumpseat on a U.S. airline when crossing the U.S. border, but will allow foreign airlines to have any Tom, Dick and Harry occupying the jumpseat should have us up in arms.
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Atlas is, pretty sure Kalitta is. However, it can depend on the SPECIFIC customer they are engaged with on the route. If it's a mil charter, pretty sure you can't.
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