US Airways Calls
04-07-2014, 11:08 AM
#3731
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 73
Originally Posted by eaglefly
Personally, I think that perhaps US Airways recruitment didn't consider that their desire to have current airline pilots wear their present uniforms to a US Airways pilot interview might cause conflict with their present employers employment policies, a practice BTW that I'm not sure any other carrier does. Perhaps, someone could simply ask them in advance how they should handle that situation if it concerns them. Actually, bringing that question up as part of a pre-interview interaction might just put that candidate in a better light showing that they are concerned with meeting their employment obligations to an employer and that they are even aware of a potential conflict as opposed to the majority that either have no clue because they don't spend much effort in reviewing those policies or worse yet, simply don't give a damn like some here.
One asked why should they care if their regional might get upset if they bust policy and wear their uniform for personal reasons off-duty, if they're going to a major ? Well, if I was a regional looking to stem attrition and I was aware of this infraction, it may be an attractive way to impede attrition.....kinda like tightening the standards in the training/checking environment and loading up pilots with an unsat to reduce the chances of them leaving. Not saying anyone does this, but suppose you were seen in Charlotte wearing your uniform and it got back to whomever you weren't on a trip and don't live there (typical crew room tongue-wagging scuttlebutt) ? Long odds, sure, but crazier things have happened and if a regional sees a lot of pilots leaving for US Airways and knows about this, well...........who knows ?
I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who gets christened the first poster boy for this, you know.....you get turned down by US Airways and now have a letter in your file by an unsympathetic and retaliatory management at your current short-staffed regional with the crappy management that hates pilots.
It's just something to consider, that's all.
One asked why should they care if their regional might get upset if they bust policy and wear their uniform for personal reasons off-duty, if they're going to a major ? Well, if I was a regional looking to stem attrition and I was aware of this infraction, it may be an attractive way to impede attrition.....kinda like tightening the standards in the training/checking environment and loading up pilots with an unsat to reduce the chances of them leaving. Not saying anyone does this, but suppose you were seen in Charlotte wearing your uniform and it got back to whomever you weren't on a trip and don't live there (typical crew room tongue-wagging scuttlebutt) ? Long odds, sure, but crazier things have happened and if a regional sees a lot of pilots leaving for US Airways and knows about this, well...........who knows ?
I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who gets christened the first poster boy for this, you know.....you get turned down by US Airways and now have a letter in your file by an unsympathetic and retaliatory management at your current short-staffed regional with the crappy management that hates pilots.
It's just something to consider, that's all.
04-07-2014, 11:37 AM
#3732
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Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by jackie moon
Maybe people should not listen to someone who didn't get the job without a flow. Did your critical thinking help you get an interview or job anywhere else in your 20+ years at eagle? I really really think you are giving awful advice. I'm not trying to be a jerk but maybe people should listen to the people who have actually been through the process and been hired. Airlines have been know to not hire people for much less. It's their game and they make the rules.
My points are unrelated to "how" I got my present position and my "critical thinking" on this issue includes the fact that in a previous non-airline life, it was me that used to DO the interviews for prospective applicants at a market research firm in the 1980's. I've GIVEN more interviews then you've taken by at least a 10-1 ratio, I can assure you of that. You seem like someone who doesn't listen to anyone anyway, so I'm surprised you even responded, but then again.......it was probably just the opportunity to demonstrate your objective personality (sarc) and cyberrock-throwing skills. 
04-07-2014, 11:57 AM
#3733
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Position: A330
Posts: 1,043
Originally Posted by jackie moon
Maybe people should not listen to someone who didn't get the job without a flow. Did your critical thinking help you get an interview or job anywhere else in your 20+ years at eagle? I really really think you are giving awful advice. I'm not trying to be a jerk but maybe people should listen to the people who have actually been through the process and been hired. Airlines have been know to not hire people for much less. It's their game and they make the rules.
Originally Posted by eaglefly
Yes, you're trying to be a jerk,
Well you kinda bring that out in people.
My points are unrelated to "how" I got my present position
You have not successfully completed a major airline interview process.
it was me that used to DO the interviews for prospective applicants at a market research firm in the 1980's.
Thirty plus years ago in a non-airline environment. YHGTFSM
I've GIVEN more interviews then you've taken by at least a 10-1 ratio,
The airline industry is unlike any other industry and if you were so important there, why did you leave for a job paying $14K annually. I was at Eagle the same time you were.
Well you kinda bring that out in people.
My points are unrelated to "how" I got my present position
You have not successfully completed a major airline interview process.
it was me that used to DO the interviews for prospective applicants at a market research firm in the 1980's.
Thirty plus years ago in a non-airline environment. YHGTFSM
I've GIVEN more interviews then you've taken by at least a 10-1 ratio,
The airline industry is unlike any other industry and if you were so important there, why did you leave for a job paying $14K annually. I was at Eagle the same time you were.
Just an observation.
04-07-2014, 12:15 PM
#3734
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Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO
Just an observation.
There ARE pilots out there who DID do that and for a multitude of reasons may not have started or completed new-hire training. Some carriers furloughed before one could start class, you know....and in some cases complete it. The goals and concepts of the personal (personality) portion of interviewing haven't changed much in 30 years. We used plenty of TMAAT type questions back then too. The technical portion of airline pilot interviewing is simple demonstration of competency in your field and that's a universal application, just different for any given field. As for why I left that job (in my 20's)..........ahh, gee dude........they had no airplanes. We all know plenty of characters who demonstrate themselves to be someone we wouldn't want to work with and to me, you seem to be a perfect example of the fallibility of the interview process (and it IS fallible, you know). I can only wonder what technique you used to fool US Airways in your new-hire job interview.
Anyhow, I thought you had more credibility when you called me a "little maggot" and implied that I didn't deserve my job.....certainly no less. A few others saw at least SOME merit in the issues I simply pointed out (which were neutral and attacked no individual or group). It's too bad a few of the usual Usapian suspects had to crawl out from under their rocks and turn that neutrality into yet another excuse to begin their next siege.
How sad. Predictable, yet still sad. It's as if you guys don't know how NOT to attack.
Last edited by eaglefly; 04-07-2014 at 12:34 PM.
04-07-2014, 01:01 PM
#3735
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,425
Eaglefly, bro, you've completely gone off the deep end here. Just let it go. I saw the director of training and two instructors at my interview in CLT and said hi and the next day had recurrent and the week after had my PC. Nobody cares. 99.999% of companies want you as a Captain to GTFO because you are expensive. In fact I'm surprised they aren't filling out our logbooks for us.
You've made your point. Noted. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
You've made your point. Noted. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
04-07-2014, 01:18 PM
#3736
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Originally Posted by fosters
Eaglefly, bro, you've completely gone off the deep end here. Just let it go. I saw the director of training and two instructors at my interview in CLT and said hi and the next day had recurrent and the week after had my PC. Nobody cares. 99.999% of companies want you as a Captain to GTFO because you are expensive. In fact I'm surprised they aren't filling out our logbooks for us.
You've made your point. Noted. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
You've made your point. Noted. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...
04-07-2014, 02:20 PM
#3738
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: Cap'n
Posts: 687
Originally Posted by kdogger
Since we're back to regular programming, has anyone heard the results of the bid for today's new class?
Anyone know class schedule for the next few months and will they train during the summer also?
Thank you in advance.
04-07-2014, 02:46 PM
#3739
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: CRJ, A320
Posts: 240
From what I've heard from a training guy is that they are behind on new hires actually… and this is causing them to not be able to upgrade as many capts as they'd like. They need the new hires to fill the vacant seats. The training house in CLT is maxed.
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