US Airways Calls
#3721
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In light of that possibility, perhaps another question to consider would be, "are you willing to violate your present company's policies to be considered for a position with OUR company ?".
Which is interesting, because this company's policy per their own flight manual would prohibit a current employee from wearing their AA uniform to another job interview.
#3722
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What if the company you work for prohibits the wearing of their uniform off-duty for any reason including social functions or ostensibly interviewing for another airline ?
In light of that possibility, perhaps another question to consider would be, "are you willing to violate your present company's policies to be considered for a position with OUR company ?".
Which is interesting, because this company's policy per their own flight manual would prohibit a current employee from wearing their AA uniform to another job interview.
In light of that possibility, perhaps another question to consider would be, "are you willing to violate your present company's policies to be considered for a position with OUR company ?".
Which is interesting, because this company's policy per their own flight manual would prohibit a current employee from wearing their AA uniform to another job interview.
#3723
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It's funny that this whole uniform issue has come up so many times in every thread. The instructions say wear your uniform...so, WEAR YOUR UNIFORM! Ironed, starched, polished shoes, and neat appearance. The interviewers can probably assume you can't follow directions, or don't want to follow directions, if you show up otherwise. Most of us who have gotten hired probably followed the email exactly as written. It's US Airways interview that they are inviting people to...hence, they make the rules. And...it seems to work, because this is the best employee group I have ever worked for.
Of course, perhaps what they REALLY seek are pilots who check their brains at the door and won't question anything an airline management says ?
What they really want are meek, compliant pilots or at those that can act that way when necessary (like during contract votes). By all means, wear the uniform to get the job, but these questions are still valid.
#3724
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This isn't an answer to the questions I raised, i.e., conflicts between jeopardizing your present employment to obtain future employment. If US Airways (as a separate carrier from AA until STS) policy allows the wearing of the uniform at the employees discretion, then at least they aren't in contradiction with themselves and if it does prohibit that, they are. Either way, another carrier (as many do), prohibit this practice and perhaps it should be questioned before attending the interview.
Of course, perhaps what they REALLY seek are pilots who check their brains at the door and won't question anything an airline management says ?
What they really want are meek, compliant pilots or at those that can act that way when necessary (like during contract votes). By all means, wear the uniform to get the job, but these questions are still valid.
Of course, perhaps what they REALLY seek are pilots who check their brains at the door and won't question anything an airline management says ?
What they really want are meek, compliant pilots or at those that can act that way when necessary (like during contract votes). By all means, wear the uniform to get the job, but these questions are still valid.
Get real.
#3725
This isn't an answer to the questions I raised, i.e., conflicts between jeopardizing your present employment to obtain future employment. If US Airways (as a separate carrier from AA until STS) policy allows the wearing of the uniform at the employees discretion, then at least they aren't in contradiction with themselves and if it does prohibit that, they are. Either way, another carrier (as many do), prohibit this practice and perhaps it should be questioned before attending the interview.
Of course, perhaps what they REALLY seek are pilots who check their brains at the door and won't question anything an airline management says ?
What they really want are meek, compliant pilots or at those that can act that way when necessary (like during contract votes). By all means, wear the uniform to get the job, but these questions are still valid.
Of course, perhaps what they REALLY seek are pilots who check their brains at the door and won't question anything an airline management says ?
What they really want are meek, compliant pilots or at those that can act that way when necessary (like during contract votes). By all means, wear the uniform to get the job, but these questions are still valid.
Interview candidates that have uniforms...wear your uniform!
#3726
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You're right, anyone at a regional who is trying to get hired at a major should disregard the interview instructions of said major because of the incredibly remote chance they would be fired for wearing their uniform outside of their regional, much less that the regional would ever even have the slightest clue that they did.
Get real.
Get real.
.....and I WAS "real". If you HAD not demonstrated yourself to be the pilot I described and had not checked your brain at the door, you'd note in my last post I advocated wearing the uniform to get the job, so in that or the previous post I never advocated disregarding anything, I simply QUESTIONED the requirement and CONSIDERED the possible relevant issues.
#3728
People that interviewed with me didn't have a uniform on and got hired. Think one was furloughed and one was corporate. In your scenario where it was against policy (so I assume they wouldn't be from a 121 carrier) I would wear a nice suit and explain it to them. I highly doubt the interview team would give it a second thought.
#3729
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People that interviewed with me didn't have a uniform on and got hired. Think one was furloughed and one was corporate. In your scenario where it was against policy (so I assume they wouldn't be from a 121 carrier) I would wear a nice suit and explain it to them. I highly doubt the interview team would give it a second thought.
One asked why should they care if their regional might get upset if they bust policy and wear their uniform for personal reasons off-duty, if they're going to a major ? Well, if I was a regional looking to stem attrition and I was aware of this infraction, it may be an attractive way to impede attrition.....kinda like tightening the standards in the training/checking environment and loading up pilots with an unsat to reduce the chances of them leaving. Not saying anyone does this, but suppose you were seen in Charlotte wearing your uniform and it got back to whomever you weren't on a trip and don't live there (typical crew room tongue-wagging scuttlebutt) ? Long odds, sure, but crazier things have happened and if a regional sees a lot of pilots leaving for US Airways and knows about this, well...........who knows ?
I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who gets christened the first poster boy for this, you know.....you get turned down by US Airways and now have a letter in your file by an unsympathetic and retaliatory management at your current short-staffed regional with the crappy management that hates pilots.
It's just something to consider, that's all.
#3730
Personally, I think that perhaps US Airways recruitment didn't consider that their desire to have current airline pilots wear their present uniforms to a US Airways pilot interview might cause conflict with their present employers employment policies, a practice BTW that I'm not sure any other carrier does. Perhaps, someone could simply ask them in advance how they should handle that situation if it concerns them. Actually, bringing that question up as part of a pre-interview interaction might just put that candidate in a better light showing that they are concerned with meeting their employment obligations to an employer and that they are even aware of a potential conflict as opposed to the majority that either have no clue because they don't spend much effort in reviewing those policies or worse yet, simply don't give a damn like some here.
One asked why should they care if their regional might get upset if they bust policy and wear their uniform for personal reasons off-duty, if they're going to a major ? Well, if I was a regional looking to stem attrition and I was aware of this infraction, it may be an attractive way to impede attrition.....kinda like tightening the standards in the training/checking environment and loading up pilots with an unsat to reduce the chances of them leaving. Not saying anyone does this, but suppose you were seen in Charlotte wearing your uniform and it got back to whomever you weren't on a trip and don't live there (typical crew room tongue-wagging scuttlebutt) ? Long odds, sure, but crazier things have happened and if a regional sees a lot of pilots leaving for US Airways and knows about this, well...........who knows ?
I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who gets christened the first poster boy for this, you know.....you get turned down by US Airways and now have a letter in your file by an unsympathetic and retaliatory management at your current short-staffed regional with the crappy management that hates pilots.
It's just something to consider, that's all.
One asked why should they care if their regional might get upset if they bust policy and wear their uniform for personal reasons off-duty, if they're going to a major ? Well, if I was a regional looking to stem attrition and I was aware of this infraction, it may be an attractive way to impede attrition.....kinda like tightening the standards in the training/checking environment and loading up pilots with an unsat to reduce the chances of them leaving. Not saying anyone does this, but suppose you were seen in Charlotte wearing your uniform and it got back to whomever you weren't on a trip and don't live there (typical crew room tongue-wagging scuttlebutt) ? Long odds, sure, but crazier things have happened and if a regional sees a lot of pilots leaving for US Airways and knows about this, well...........who knows ?
I'd hate to be the poor schmuck who gets christened the first poster boy for this, you know.....you get turned down by US Airways and now have a letter in your file by an unsympathetic and retaliatory management at your current short-staffed regional with the crappy management that hates pilots.
It's just something to consider, that's all.
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