Phoenix court hears US Air seniority case
10-03-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
The company is on record saying they will never negotiate seniority and they won't accept a different list from usapa unless a court gives them immunity,
10-03-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by moosedawg
Since the USAPA bylaws say DOH, is that your going in position with AA. Will DOH work just fine for you with them?
10-03-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
For Parker the simple solution is separate operations indefinitely, no CBA no raises. It's working well now, why change?
10-03-2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Can you quote that? I don't remember the company stating their position in those concrete terms and forgive me if I don't just take your word for it.
10-03-2012, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
So where does that leave Parker ?
Sounds like his best bet is to kick the can for 5 years while east pilots gradually flop over while waiting for another option to present itself. If we clear C11 with a CBA and this management still in charge, it will be this management that calls the shots on AA's future, for better or worse and U may not be in that plan.
Sounds like his best bet is to kick the can for 5 years while east pilots gradually flop over while waiting for another option to present itself. If we clear C11 with a CBA and this management still in charge, it will be this management that calls the shots on AA's future, for better or worse and U may not be in that plan.
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10-03-2012, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
The East pilots wanted a fence, and that is what they have effectively done. They had a higher average age, and those guys start rolling out at the end of the year, leaving those seats to be occupied by East pilots and new hires on that side of the fence. Sure, the pay hit sucks from no contract, but if you were facing a 5-6 wait to upgrade/re-upgrade at the current rates, versus never (with the SLI) with a %20 raise, my bet is guys hope that it remains fenced for a long time.
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10-03-2012, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
It's all emotion, no facts. The east get's 3 out of every four upgrades on the nicolau award, yet they demand 4 out of 4. The few that upgrde will do so to $124 an hour (what fo's get paid everywhere else), the vast majority will toil at very low pay and the worst work rules in the industry.
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10-03-2012, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eastie Pilot
Do you really believe in Tom Horton's plan??? If AA clears Chapter 11 with your same management in place, you will be headed back into Chapter 11 or even 7 before the ink is dry on the Plan of Reorganization.
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