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Old 04-16-2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
a former committee member.

Jetblue has no interest in bringing any part of your compensation package to industry standard. Any raise you believe you'll receive will easily be negated by this code share. If AA, or anyone else, is doing our domestic flying for us this will inherently limit our growth. By limiting our growth we limit block hours which directly affect your pay.

The point is Jetblue does not have you, the pilots, best interest in mind.

We are providing Jetblue a 28% CASM margin and they claim they need our help to ease scope/code share? Giving flying away does nothing more than stagnate your career.
So you made up the quote?

Question, you say American doing our domestic flying, how can you be so sure we won't be doing THEIR domestic flying? You just said we have a 28% cost advantage, and the rest of the world says we have a far better product.
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Old 04-16-2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
So you made up the quote?

Question, you say American doing our domestic flying, how can you be so sure we won't be doing THEIR domestic flying? You just said we have a 28% cost advantage, and the rest of the world says we have a far better product.
No I didnt make it up. Someone else wrote it and I can't take credit for it. That was their exact statement.

American, or anyone else, can already do unlimited codesharing on NEW routes. The PVC's approval is for current flying. We provide Jetblue with a 28% margin, and by default the industry as a whole. In essence we save jetblue 28% for doing the same work as another pilot group which is why we don't need to give anything away.

Here is a very real example. We admittedly can't compete with the transcon high end market. Leadership is claiming they will ultimately implement an upgrade and since it is a current route Jetblue, with PVC approval, could allow AA to do that flying. These are many of the types of issues being discussed.

Lastly, an it was stated in one of the 5 documents road shows Jetblue gave the PVC this authority as they claimed we would never domestic code share. Dave Barger also stated in the March 2010 "pocket session" that we would never place an AA tag on our flying.

Oh how times have changed.
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Old 04-16-2013 | 11:55 AM
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And I cant guarantee we wont do theirs. That is why the whole contract will have to be carefully vetted. But based on my dealings with APA in a previous life I doubt this will be a watershed moment for Jetblue pilots.

My skepticism is based on 11 years of listening to Jetblue.
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Old 04-16-2013 | 12:15 PM
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Oh Ernst, JetBlue loves juicers like you. You'll go far here for sure. The only wide bodies this place will get are the code share partners we have. I applaud dreamers like you.
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