JetBlue growth
04-16-2013 | 08:04 AM
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As for "growth" it is anyone's guess. None of us has a clue how many aircraft will be returned as new a/c come on property.
I personally dont believe we will ever get widebodies. I think we do much better as a niche carrier like Alaska, focusing on BOS/JFK/northeast traffic and codesharing with everyone else. The widebody carrot is always dropped in initial/recurrent training and the fleet number is always just a little more than we have. When I came through it was 170 airframes until we ordered A330s, then 195, then 215, now 250. So... draw your own conclusions
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04-16-2013 | 10:17 AM
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Code shares are not inherently bad but for JetBlue pilots this is a nightmare. Over the years Barger has touted the open architecture of the route network. These upcoming code shares will limit future growth and stagnate career progression. If anything positive ever came out of the fab 4 it was the PVC ability to limit the code after a certain time frame. This will soon disappear.
04-16-2013 | 10:29 AM
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Code shares are not inherently bad but for JetBlue pilots this is a nightmare. Over the years Barger has touted the open architecture of the route network. These upcoming code shares will limit future growth and stagnate career progression. If anything positive ever came out of the fab 4 it was the PVC ability to limit the code after a certain time frame. This will soon disappear.
04-16-2013 | 10:44 AM
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I don't honestly know that the pilot group can limit the scope. Only the PVC can do that. They are also in a difficult position as management wants relief from that. Also domestically we have no say.
"The first adjustment in 2014 is 16% and the (28 under) PAR Team wants to convince the Pilot Group Jetblue needs more efficiency and domestic unlimited code sharing without PVC consent to pay for Peer Set Industry Average Base Pay. "
"The first adjustment in 2014 is 16% and the (28 under) PAR Team wants to convince the Pilot Group Jetblue needs more efficiency and domestic unlimited code sharing without PVC consent to pay for Peer Set Industry Average Base Pay. "
04-16-2013 | 11:13 AM
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I don't honestly know that the pilot group can limit the scope. Only the PVC can do that. They are also in a difficult position as management wants relief from that. Also domestically we have no say.
"The first adjustment in 2014 is 16% and the (28 under) PAR Team wants to convince the Pilot Group Jetblue needs more efficiency and domestic unlimited code sharing without PVC consent to pay for Peer Set Industry Average Base Pay. "
"The first adjustment in 2014 is 16% and the (28 under) PAR Team wants to convince the Pilot Group Jetblue needs more efficiency and domestic unlimited code sharing without PVC consent to pay for Peer Set Industry Average Base Pay. "
04-16-2013 | 11:34 AM
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a former committee member.
Jetblue has no interest in bringing any part of your compensation package to industry standard. Any raise you believe you'll receive will easily be negated by this code share. If AA, or anyone else, is doing our domestic flying for us this will inherently limit our growth. By limiting our growth we limit block hours which directly affect your pay.
The point is Jetblue does not have you, the pilots, best interest in mind.
We are providing Jetblue a 28% CASM margin and they claim they need our help to ease scope/code share? Giving flying away does nothing more than stagnate your career.
Jetblue has no interest in bringing any part of your compensation package to industry standard. Any raise you believe you'll receive will easily be negated by this code share. If AA, or anyone else, is doing our domestic flying for us this will inherently limit our growth. By limiting our growth we limit block hours which directly affect your pay.
The point is Jetblue does not have you, the pilots, best interest in mind.
We are providing Jetblue a 28% CASM margin and they claim they need our help to ease scope/code share? Giving flying away does nothing more than stagnate your career.
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